Man Fired For Looking At Gun Web Sites - Page 4

Thumper · October 13th, 2009, 12:01 AM

The company I used to work for would have fired my butt in a heart beat if they ever knew I visited THIS forum!

I can neither confirm or deny that I ever visited www.defensivecarry.com while using the company owned computer of my former employer!

JerryM · October 13th, 2009, 12:24 AM

M view is that an employee is hired to work for a certain number of hours, and work does not include browsing on the computer. If I had an employee who was looking at gun sites instead of working I would fire him after one warning.

Regards,
Jerry

Squawker · October 13th, 2009, 01:22 AM

In my case, I was working in a clinic in Walgreens. We were seeing 1-4 patents per 12 hour shift. Can you say bored out of our minds? I would have loved to have ben busy seeing patients. They just weren't there, and there was nothing else work related for me to do.

DaveH · October 13th, 2009, 02:12 PM

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M view is that an employee is hired to work for a certain number of hours, and work does not include browsing on the computer.

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IMHO, using company equipment & bandwidth is no different that using a vehicle or other equipment, except in degree.

OTOH, Planco's policy says employees may not visit "inappropriate" web sites. So, they do permit employees to visit "appropriate" web sites, using company equipment & bandwidth .

More to the point, they acknowledge that the company had "legitimate concerns about employee safety" because "Jackson, an admitted gun enthusiast who owns a sizable gun collection, including an Uzi" -- which IMHO is a whole different matter,

Guns and more · October 13th, 2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Squawker

In my case, I was working in a clinic in Walgreens. We were seeing 1-4 patents per 12 hour shift. Can you say bored out of our minds? I would have loved to have ben busy seeing patients. They just weren't there, and there was nothing else work related for me to do.

I guess Walgreens was giving money away. You had nothing to do?
In today's economy, you'd be laid off.

highvoltage · October 13th, 2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveH

.....IMHO, using company equipment & bandwidth is no different that using a vehicle or other equipment, except in degree.

True, as long as it's used for company business. Most companies will give employees a certain amount of latitude, however, discretion is paramount when surfing the web at work.

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Originally Posted by DaveH

OTOH, Planco's policy says employees may not visit "inappropriate" web sites. So, they do permit employees to visit "appropriate" web sites, using company equipment & bandwidth.

They can visit web sites that the company deems appropriate, yes. What is appropriate? Depends on the corporation.

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Originally Posted by DaveH

More to the point, they acknowledge that the company had "legitimate concerns about employee safety" because "Jackson, an admitted gun enthusiast who owns a sizable gun collection, including an Uzi" -- which IMHO is a whole different matter,

Actually that is the matter. They found a reason for termination and used inappropriate use of company equipment as the cause.

Wrongful termination lawsuits are rarely won by the dismissed employee. A corporation has a vast amount of resources at their disposal, and the average employee has neither the time nor resources to pursue litigation.

Most corporations use "at will" employment; your there at your will and at their will. You can leave any time you like, and they can dismiss you any time they like.

October 13th, 2009, 12:01 AM	#31
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October 13th, 2009, 12:24 AM	#32
JerryM Distinguished Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,694	M view is that an employee is hired to work for a certain number of hours, and work does not include browsing on the computer. If I had an employee who was looking at gun sites instead of working I would fire him after one warning. Regards, Jerry

October 13th, 2009, 01:22 AM	#33
Squawker Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 1,460	In my case, I was working in a clinic in Walgreens. We were seeing 1-4 patents per 12 hour shift. Can you say bored out of our minds? I would have loved to have ben busy seeing patients. They just weren't there, and there was nothing else work related for me to do.