Round would not extract

tawcat · October 25th, 2009, 09:24 AM

For the first time I finally carried my Loaded Micro Compact Operator. Carried in "condition one."

When I got home, I dropped the mag, and tried to pull the slide back to eject the chambered round. The slide was very hard to pull back. Finally when I got the slide back, the round would not extract. I locked the slide back and gently pried the round out.

This is the first time this has ever happened to me with any weapon let alone my new gun!

I was using Hornady 185 gr XTP rounds. Haven't had this problem with any other rounds so I am wondering if it is just the brand.

I want to use hollow points for SD/EDC.

Any advice or suggestions?

buckeyeLCPL · October 25th, 2009, 09:26 AM

How many rounds did you fire in the gun before carriyng it? How many of your carry HP's did you fire?

retsupt99 · October 25th, 2009, 09:38 AM

Did you put that round in by hand, or did you load it via a mag?

Rugergirl · October 25th, 2009, 09:42 AM

New gun? How new? Have you cleaned it? Test fired it yet?

boscobeans · October 25th, 2009, 10:05 AM

Pull the barrel, clean the chamber and try dropping a round into it. It should seat into the chamber fully and drop out with no problem.

If the rounds don't do as above measure them to see if they are within specs. If they are it sounds like you may have a chamber problem.

bosco

tawcat · October 25th, 2009, 10:33 AM

To all: New gun, only fired maybe 50 rounds. I never hand feed a weapon. Have not test fired any HP. Plan to go to the range tomorrow and do that.

Rugergirl · October 25th, 2009, 10:39 AM

Shoot as much as you can as often as you can. For me personally any semi-auto hasn't been proven "carry-worthy" until it has at least 500 rounds through it and I am 100% sure it will go bang every time.
I am somewhat of a pefectionist and until I can hit consistant 3" or smaller groups at 21 feet, I don't feel comfortable carry that gun.
A few days at the range and a good cleaning between each trip will help. Be sure to test the carry ammo you use to make sure your gun will cycle it properly, some guns just don't like certain hollow-point rounds, something you want to know before you may ever need to use it for defense.

automatic slim · October 25th, 2009, 11:02 AM

Considering that you pulled the slide back and the round remained in the chamber, you might want to check your extractor for damage. In the future, instead of prying the round out you might insert a section of dowel in the muzzle and gently tap it out.
If the round initially chambered, it sounds like there may have been some type of foreign matter in the chamber that caused it to stick. A new gun should be thoroughly cleaned before use to insure reliability.
Use Boscoe's method for checking your ammo.

tawcat · October 25th, 2009, 11:44 AM

Thanks so much. Prying may not be the best description. It didn't take much coaxing. I am now thinking that a piece of lint or hair could have tainted the round or chamber.

Scheduled for a good cleaning again today and I will cycle the same type ammo and see what happens.

The recoil spring is very stiff, hopefully that will ease up a bit with use!

NCHornet · October 25th, 2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by automatic slim

Considering that you pulled the slide back and the round remained in the chamber, you might want to check your extractor for damage. In the future, instead of prying the round out you might insert a section of dowel in the muzzle and gently tap it out.
If the round initially chambered, it sounds like there may have been some type of foreign matter in the chamber that caused it to stick. A new gun should be thoroughly cleaned before use to insure reliability.
Use Boscoe's method for checking your ammo.

Bingo!!! First thing I would be looking at is the extractor to make sure it wasn't damaged, could be it is shaped so it doesn't thoroughly grap the Hornaday casings, it is weird this happened with the first round of that type.
Let us know what you find out.

NCH

October 25th, 2009, 09:24 AM	#1
tawcat Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 31	Round would not extract For the first time I finally carried my Loaded Micro Compact Operator. Carried in "condition one." When I got home, I dropped the mag, and tried to pull the slide back to eject the chambered round. The slide was very hard to pull back. Finally when I got the slide back, the round would not extract. I locked the slide back and gently pried the round out. This is the first time this has ever happened to me with any weapon let alone my new gun! I was using Hornady 185 gr XTP rounds. Haven't had this problem with any other rounds so I am wondering if it is just the brand. I want to use hollow points for SD/EDC. Any advice or suggestions? __________________ Visit My Blog

October 25th, 2009, 09:26 AM	#2
buckeyeLCPL VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Somestanplace Posts: 2,986	How many rounds did you fire in the gun before carriyng it? How many of your carry HP's did you fire? __________________ Fortes Fortuna Juvat We're mules lad. Mules that kill. TJR

October 25th, 2009, 09:38 AM	#3
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 22,715	Did you put that round in by hand, or did you load it via a mag? __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

October 25th, 2009, 09:42 AM	#4
Rugergirl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,193	New gun? How new? Have you cleaned it? Test fired it yet? __________________ Disclaimer: The posts made by this member are only the members opinion, not a reflection on anyone else, nor the group, and should not be cause for anyone to get their undergarments wedged in an uncomfortable position.

October 25th, 2009, 10:33 AM	#6
tawcat Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 31	To all: New gun, only fired maybe 50 rounds. I never hand feed a weapon. Have not test fired any HP. Plan to go to the range tomorrow and do that. __________________ Visit My Blog

October 25th, 2009, 10:05 AM	#5
boscobeans Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: upstate new york Posts: 714	Pull the barrel, clean the chamber and try dropping a round into it. It should seat into the chamber fully and drop out with no problem. If the rounds don't do as above measure them to see if they are within specs. If they are it sounds like you may have a chamber problem. bosco

October 25th, 2009, 10:39 AM	#7
Rugergirl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,193	Shoot as much as you can as often as you can. For me personally any semi-auto hasn't been proven "carry-worthy" until it has at least 500 rounds through it and I am 100% sure it will go bang every time. I am somewhat of a pefectionist and until I can hit consistant 3" or smaller groups at 21 feet, I don't feel comfortable carry that gun. A few days at the range and a good cleaning between each trip will help. Be sure to test the carry ammo you use to make sure your gun will cycle it properly, some guns just don't like certain hollow-point rounds, something you want to know before you may ever need to use it for defense. __________________ Disclaimer: The posts made by this member are only the members opinion, not a reflection on anyone else, nor the group, and should not be cause for anyone to get their undergarments wedged in an uncomfortable position.

October 25th, 2009, 11:02 AM	#8
automatic slim Distinguished Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The western edge of The Confederacy Posts: 1,222	Considering that you pulled the slide back and the round remained in the chamber, you might want to check your extractor for damage. In the future, instead of prying the round out you might insert a section of dowel in the muzzle and gently tap it out. If the round initially chambered, it sounds like there may have been some type of foreign matter in the chamber that caused it to stick. A new gun should be thoroughly cleaned before use to insure reliability. Use Boscoe's method for checking your ammo. __________________ "First gallant South Carolina nobly made the stand." Edge of Darkness

October 25th, 2009, 11:44 AM	#9
tawcat Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 31	Thanks so much. Prying may not be the best description. It didn't take much coaxing. I am now thinking that a piece of lint or hair could have tainted the round or chamber. Scheduled for a good cleaning again today and I will cycle the same type ammo and see what happens. The recoil spring is very stiff, hopefully that will ease up a bit with use! __________________ Visit My Blog

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