Captain Crunch

I agree with that. Personally, I have no desire to own a full-auto firearm, but if you want to own one, that's fine with me.

To each his own, as they say.

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You can keep the "change!"

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Doc Holliday

Perhaps I may have been a little to harsh but the quote "I don't see a need for a civilian to own an AK clone" struck a little to close to my nerves.

Mr. BlueLion you are more than welcome to your opinion, I just respectfully disagree.

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Give Doc the shotgun.
They'll be less apt to get nervous if he's on the street howitzer.

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave.

I have two guns, one for each of ya.

Rob72

I'll toss $.02 more into the game. The "need" is a purely subjective affair, but the fact that many "do" is the only reason we don't work for the Mexican laborers' rate of $1.25/day. With a pistol, you can repel violent personal assault. With a shotgun you can repel numerous individuals bearing malevolent intentions. With a rifle, you own the land you survey.

Always be aware: you are "Free", therefore, the "need" is actually a mandate. When the North American Community becomes reality, do you really believe that the standards of personal property and defense will be elevated to those of the US; or are they more likely to be standardized to the lowest common denominator: Mexico? (Canada is essentially a non-entity, being only slightly less "civilized"-neutered- than the French).

Both the AK and AR platforms are light-rifles, well-suited to mid-range conflict, and appropriate to the landowner holding an acre or less, and really should be (one, another, or both)part and parcel of any responsible American citizen's emergency kit. My fellow man is neither particularly civil or moral, and may, on occassion, need reminding of the limits of his more libertine inclinations.......

joe/OH

Thanks Rob, you just reminded me of why I need to bet that new M1A!

BlueLion

Holster your weapon soldier...I frankly don't care what you have or want to have as a defense weapon because I am pro-gun. Secondly, I choose not to have one, and yes, I don't see why a civilian needs one, but I am not against it. I don't see why people buy 400,000 dollar cars but I am not against them. Get my drift. So, buy what you want you won't get an argument here.

Moreover, I don't know if you have ever seen some one trained let alone untrained cut loose with one of these, it is nasty. So, I figure worst case scenario is you let loose when a BG comes in the house and the things sends rounds across the street. In contrast, my friend lives in an apartment and he is a novice.

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joe/OH

Most AK's in the US are semi-automatic - so probably not the same as the full-auto variant that you have encountered in the military. But as with any rifle - impressive nonetheless.

Second, in an apartment, an AR loaded with hollow points or varmint rounds is less dangerous than a pistol. In fact, a handgun - especially a .45 - is very dangerous in an apartment.

Doc Holliday

I happen to live in a home so I don't have to worry about shooting my neighbor. In fact my AK isn't loaded. I don't want to wear out the magazine springs.

As far as "letting loose", I am not from the pray and spray tactical school. I believe in controlled, aimed fire.

The AK is not my first or second or third choice when it comes to home defense. That role goes to my 870 stroked with OO buck. Followed by a Glock 21 and then a S & W Model 65 in .357mag.

If your friend is a novice then perhaps you should school him in firearm safety and take him to the range. If you aren't comfortable with that, then point him in the right direction. I'm sure that a NRA certified instructor would "coach" him up.

As far as holstering my flamethrower......I never pulled it. I said that I respectfully disagree with you which I do.

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Give Doc the shotgun.
They'll be less apt to get nervous if he's on the street howitzer.

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave.

I have two guns, one for each of ya.

Miggy

Some reasons, not all by any means.

Democide: The murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder.
61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime
5,964,000 Murdered: Japan's Savage Military
2,035,000 Murdered: The Khmer Rouge Hell State
1,883,000 Murdered: Turkey's Genocidal Purges
800,000 Murdered: The Rwanda Killings
1,670,000 Murdered: The Vietnamese War State
1,585,000 Murdered: Poland's Ethnic Cleansing

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rocky

Gotta agree with most here. AK's and AR's are not illegal to own. Semi autos abound, and AK or AR's in trained hands make exellent defensive weapons.
If you don't want 1 , thats fine, but don't dismiss em as not needed for others. I want the best chance to defend myself and family in any situation.

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Doc Holliday

I know we have all seen this on a bumper sticker at one time.

"An unarmed man is a subject. An armed man is a citizen."

The day may come that we as Americans may have to fight against Tyranny. We are like our forefathers in the sense that we are the modern day "Minutemen". The armed poplulace is the militia that is mentioned in the 2nd Amendment.

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Give Doc the shotgun.
They'll be less apt to get nervous if he's on the street howitzer.

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave.

I have two guns, one for each of ya.