Tom357

This is not a flame. I do have some questions. Why do you refer to this AK-47 as a pistol? Why do you think/know it requires a permit? I think it may depend on your state. In Virginia, long guns, including semi-auto rifles like the AK-47, are completely legal to own and require no permit. As related, your other co-worker's statements sound reasonable. What legal stuff is it to which you refer?
This explanation, while enlightening, does not explain why you directed your co-worker to return a rifle he purchased for himself, a rifle for which you have no need or desire. Why should the fact that you see no need and have no desire for one govern his ownership? We are clearly of different opinions. I, and many others, do see a role for the AK's and AR's in the suburban/urban self-defense arsenal. I am curious about your perspective and would like to know more.

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H22ate

I coudnt have said it better myself. I have both an ak and an ar, beside household protection they are fun as hell to go out to a range and shoot. The ammo is fairly cheap and there are hundreds of after-markets for these guns.

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OD

If it's a semi-automatic, it is not an AK-47, just like the current AR15s are not M16s.

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KenpoTex

I like that! I may borrow that from time to time if you don't mind.

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Rob72

Thanks! By all means....

I will grant that I agree with BL, in that some "children" should not be allowed to have certain "toys"......but, that is where the issue of personal responsibility comes in. If we remove that responsibility, as a society, then only the "Professionals" will have any arms, as by definition, they are the only ones trained to use them. Not something I care to have. I have certainly seen my fair share of 'tards, "drinkin' beer, 'n playin' wi' my gun......", or scenarios of equally limited capacity, though not necessarily requiring an artificial agent to incapacitate the individuals in question....

Get the kid to the range, and teach him how to use his carbine! Unless this is one of those Krink pistols, in which case, get him to trade it out for a good, stocked, AK/SKS.

I have seen the use and application of both legal and illegal FA. With a cyclic rate of 600-900 rpm, it is not difficult to deliver triples and quads, COM. Not bad and better than a SG, if you are concerned with having BG left at the end of your magazine. In the rates of the illegally altered SA weapon, your odds, on the recieving end, aren't exactly terrible, as long as you have some distance and movement. Monkeying around with slip-sears, light springs, and the like, has caused a fatal stoppage for more than one banger, and on occassion, spectacular OOBs ("Oooohh! mama, Ah cain't see!")

BlueLion

Tom 357, first off in my haste to type yes, yes, it seems that I refered to the rife as a pistol. Good job really reading my post. Secondly, it is my opinion just that and if you like AR's and the sort that is cool no problem here. However, what I won't do is get into mindless debate over your opinion versus mine because opinions are like --- everyone has one.

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srfl

I used to work as a P/T rangemaster in NJ....so I've seen my fair share of unusual first choices in weapons by the untrained/unitiated to include .44 and .357 caliber Desert Eagles....so hearing about a somewhat immature person purchasing and toting an AK doesn't phase me a bit.

That said, as an LEO and military officer...I can care less if a good guy civilian owns a semi-automatic rifle....I for one don't fear the citizenry with such weapons for a simple reason...I'm a citizen of this country too and my current occupations do not make me better than someone who is not or never was neither a badge or dogtag wearer...I just get to do lots of fun stuff...and some of it with guns.....what I do fear is a criminal carrying any kind of weapon up to and including a Red Ryder BB gun or sharpened stick....and if Mr. (new) AK shooter decides to use that in defense of his life, limb and home...power to him.

However, given his possible dubious source for purchasing the gun, maybe have a LEO friend run the S/N of the AK? Also have him train with it....properly....no "hey watch this" as he does his best impression of a Liberian gunman.

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Tom357

Ah, I wondered if, perhaps, it was something like the RRA LAR-15 pistol, only in an AK design. I don't generally engage in mindless debate, nor do I consider your opinion mindless. I was interested in your perspective on why you see no need for a semi-auto version of those designs for the civilian population. Mostly because your opinion is different from mine, and therefore worth considering.

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