BlueLion

Today at work had a friend comes up to me and says that he has a AK-47 that his cousin sold him. This guy is really new to pistols and I just took him shooting a few months ago. But, he has yet to take a CCW class although he has a pistol. Well, today at the printer he was so happy to tell me that he had something he wanted me to see, and when he said it was a AK-47. I freaked,,first I know he does not have a permit for it, and second who know's what kind of friend this cousin is since this is not the first pistol he has gotten from him.

Then he lets a l co-worker tell him he's ok since it's probably a semi-auto anyway. I tell ya stupid stuff like this by guys that don't know the legal stuff drives me crazy. I told him to run and give the thing back, but have him come and get it. Could you imagine getting stopped with a concealed AK and you only have a basic permit. Moreover, what if someone tried to break into his apartment and he used the thing. Oh, yeah he has ammo and thought it was cool to tell me how it sounded when he "jacked" it back. Playing with it.

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Sheldon J

First off how are you getting the impression that an AK is a full auto? There are hundreds of thousands of Semi's out there, and what state are you in where you need a permit to buy a Semi-Riffle, a pistol grip dose not make it a hand gun. Need more details to really be judgmental here.

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Doc Holliday

I have a Norinco MAK-90, one of the many legal semi-auto AK clones. Unless it has a three position switch/safety then it is legal from the mode of fire standpoint unless you live in a state or city that has banned semi-auto "assault rifles."

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Give Doc the shotgun.
They'll be less apt to get nervous if he's on the street howitzer.

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave.

I have two guns, one for each of ya.

P95Carry

Blue - if he is 18+ and has a common everyday AK clone - he is legal and does not need any ''permit'' as such, assuming he is not in NJ etc!!!

If he were to try and carry it around loaded and concealed then for sure a big no-no there, plus it sounds like he is still at the stage where showing off stuff and a bit of macho is in evidence. If also the purchase was ftf in state then I doubt he has broken any laws.

Does sound tho a bit as if he needs some useful instruction on firearms handling and getting some lessons on good shooting practice etc.

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is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!."

If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

BlueLion

I appreciate your straight forwardness 95, as always good response. Now on to the others. The last time I fired a anything beyond a hand gun I was in the service, and I don't see the real need for a semi AK clone or anything similar to that in the civilian. This is not to say that people should not havethem, I just don't desire them. Moreover, it is rumored that the guys cousin is into pharmaceuticals..Ya know.

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P95Carry

One problem with AK's AR's etc is - on the one hand by virtue of 2A - they are as much legally accessible and acceptable as any other gun. They are all part of our right to keep and bear arms.

On the other - I would admit that they are not always the best things for the inexperienced or those who wish to clown around pretending to be macho saviors of the world!

Sadly as we well know, the ''assault'' term is too readily bandied around by our detractors and I for one do not like bad press being engendered by foolhardy use of these guns.

Looking at sensible possession and use however there need be no problem and I do not like to segregate weapon categories by ''need'' quotients regarding mil and civilian. As far as 2A is concerned, a gun is a gun is a gun - but we all have a responsibility to do our best to promote the whole slew of firearms in the best way we can.

An AK being ''shown off'' carelessly to satisfy a (usually) young person's response to peer pressure is not something I am fond of seeing I admit.

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Chris - P95
NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member.

"To own a gun and assume that you are armed
is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!."

If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

Roadrunner

I hear you on that. It's an unfortunate part of the "growing up" process for most of us, but it's still never fun to see. I get to see too much of it working behind a gun counter. "Whoa, is that a machine gun!?" is something I end up hearing on a daily basis whenever customers notice the AR's and tactical shotguns, and after a while it really starts to tick me off. It's not so bad coming from a ten year old, but when the speaker is older than me (22) it's just sad. But, on the other hand, for many who are new to the gun world that's just a natural reaction of enthusiasm for something new and exciting. A lot of times that enthusiasm can be tempered with good instruction and a new, responsible 'gunny' is born. It's a little tough for someone who grew up around guns to realize how differently someone who's led a more sheltered life perceives them at first.

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grnzbra

Well, one reason to have both AK and AR clones is familiarization. At LFI-3, we had a discussion with a lady who had been to an anti-terrorism class. One of the "points to remember" was to "trade up" if possible. Now if you find yourself facing a terrorist and get lucky and drop him with your carry gun, and decide to take his AK, it might be useful to know where the controls are. Same applies to an AR. Of course, one would also be well served to go somewhere that you can rent a full auto version of each, just to know what that's like.

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Doc Holliday

I'm going to be civil here.

Not if, but when the SHTF, I desire to have a firearm capable of defending my family. Sorry but the .45 ain't going to cut it. There is a real need for this type of rifle.

You are making the assumption since I am a civilian I shouldn't have the right to own one......I resent that. Heck, I believe that I should be able to own a select fire version if I wanted to because I am a law abiding citizen.

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Give Doc the shotgun.
They'll be less apt to get nervous if he's on the street howitzer.

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave.

I have two guns, one for each of ya.

joe/OH

While immature, it doesn't sound like your friend has done anything wrong. Unless there are other details you haven't divulged.

Every american citizen should strive to become a rifleman. It is our tradition, our right, and our obligation.

I'm going to plagiarize this - and I'm sure I'm going to do it incorrectly:

"You need a shotgun (or pistol) to defend your life. You need a rifle to defend your liberty."