Risque007

I saw this topic posted by the member CWL on The High Road forum and I found it interesting and wanted your guys' opinions on it.

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Why so SERIOUS?

packinnova

Not all knife wielders slash only. Some of us...train to use whatever technique works. For instance, when I first started, the basics I was taught was to work around the clock system. By that I mean all your slashes, stabs, thrusts, etc... originate around the clock (1,2,3,4,5,6-12 - you get the idea). Anywhoo, stabs are just as, if not more so effective by someone who is trained....Armor or not.
The other thing to think about, at least for me...Is that when I train to stab...I'm not trying to bury the blade in you...it's more like short pokes and very fast, multiple strikes within a very short timespan. If I notice someone has a good layer of clothing on, the only time I'm slashing is if I can get his arms or neck.

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KenpoTex

Multiple layers of clothing or even a single layer of "tough" clothing like a leather jacket may very well provide protection against slashes and "little poking type" thrusts but I doubt they'd stop a real thrust. Unless you have a knife with a very wide blade or a point with a broad profile (like some of the "americanized" tantos out there) most knives won't have any problem penetrating even multiple layers of tough fabric.

I primarily train a reverse-grip, edge-in method where the thrusts are very powerful...in fact, I don't think of the method as thrusting as much as hitting with hammerfist strikes that just happen to have several inches of steel protruding from them. I don't even think about the blade, I think about slamming the base of my fist into the intended target.

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Reffy

I have no professional training, nor do I have a professional opinion, but I've all ways said knives were to get you out of a fight, not into a fight. By that I mean knives are last ditch ALLWAYS, it's the weapon meant to be felt, not seen. Just knowing that you have a knife should make you less reluctant to throw down fists at a bar anyway.
A knife is for when he running at you and he looks like he's high on PCP. Or for that bar fight in which the cop beat on that woman. And when that's the case I've all ways envisioned myself going for his legs. Close up, deep strikes into the legs.

Seamusalaska

Baggy clothes? Layers? Time for Tanto. Ditto to Reffy on the leg business if you know what you're doing.

Betty

I really doubt the fashion deliberately evolved around effectiveness against knives. The hoods emulate what's fashionable, like what the gangbanga rappers wear, and that happens to be super-baggy everything. While the side-effect of the fashion may deter some knife slashes, it certainly won't stop somebody who knows what he's really doing with a blade.

The upside (for us) to the overly-baggy clothes is that the wearer can be restricted by his own clothing. Pants of excessive waist size worn on a much smaller person sure aren't an advantage in any kind of fight, especially when I see these guys have to walk slowly and hold their pants up just to get around. I'd like to see one try to catch me while he's trying to keep his pants from falling off.

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Redneck Repairs

My input is that my personal rule 1. of attending a knife fight is to bring a gun . I carry big sharp knives as tools , and have been in fights where sharp stuff is involved , I dont care to repeat the experiance .

Chooie

+1 redneck.

retsupt99

This picture denotes my preferred method of knife fighting...

ret

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