The ''sock''!! - Page 2

George Hill · May 3rd, 2005, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Linch

Soap bar in the sock worked well in boot camp... That was the "Old Corps" though. :)

Worked just as good in the Army too.

Bumper · May 4th, 2005, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by QKShooter

That reminds me of the old "FLAT SAP"
The leather filled with powdered lead or bird shot that LEOs and mobsters usta carry...way back when.

Way back when? I carry one in the door compartment of my car every day....

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Originally Posted by George Hill

Worked just as good in the Army too.

Yes, it did!

ExSoldier · May 4th, 2005, 07:38 AM

Hey, it was the first weapon ever used by the brand new vigilante character in the FIRST "Death Wish" movie. Decked the mugger and split apart as the BG took off. Just imagine going from the "sock" to a .30 cal belt fed machinegun in "Death Wish 3!"

QKShooter · May 4th, 2005, 10:09 AM

I was going to try to make one of those as a "leather project" ~ I have lots of old fine lead shot around.
Maybe by sometime next year I'll get around to making one.
Wasn't the whole idea behind the "Flat Sap" that you could knock the Bad Guys lights out

...without doing any physical damage to his stupid skull?

Bumper · May 5th, 2005, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by QKShooter

I was going to try to make one of those as a "leather project" ~ I have lots of old fine lead shot around.
Maybe by sometime next year I'll get around to making one.
Wasn't the whole idea behind the "Flat Sap" that you could knock the Bad Guys lights out

...without doing any physical damage to his stupid skull?

I forgot I had a picture of mine in the gallery. And, yup, that was exactly what they were very effective for. If you learn just how to hit someone you can knock them out almost every time with one hit. They wake up with one hell of a lump and a headache but normally without any blood or permanent damage. Rent the movie Mulholland Falls and watch Nick Nolte use a sap to whup just about everyone he runs into....

scbair · May 5th, 2005, 12:03 PM

The flat sap was almost universally carried by the guys in my old department when I first walked through the door (1977). Pretty well banned by most departments, nowadays.

I purchased and used (once!) a Bucheimer "Convoy" blackjack; 15-ounce rounded head of solid lead; spring handle covered with braided leather. Swatted a 6'2", 220 pound physical specimen (high on somethin') who was trying to beat down my partner. The dude collapsed like a brain-shot steer! Scared me half to death, 'cause I (and my partner) thought I'd killed him! He survived, but I did learn a lesson: The flat saps were less likely to cause concussions & skull fractures.

Come to think of it, I do believe he learned a lesson, too!

QKShooter · May 6th, 2005, 10:25 PM

How many things that are fairly recent almost get lost to general population history.
I'll bet you could ask 99% of the people walking around in the U.S. what a "FLAT SAP" is and not get one correct answer!

ExSoldier · May 6th, 2005, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scbair

The flat sap was almost universally carried by the guys in my old department when I first walked through the door (1977). Pretty well banned by most departments, nowadays.

I purchased and used (once!) a Bucheimer "Convoy" blackjack; 15-ounce rounded head of solid lead; spring handle covered with braided leather. Swatted a 6'2", 220 pound physical specimen (high on somethin') who was trying to beat down my partner. The dude collapsed like a brain-shot steer! Scared me half to death, 'cause I (and my partner) thought I'd killed him! He survived, but I did learn a lesson: The flat saps were less likely to cause concussions & skull fractures.

Anybody ever used SAP GLOVES? Talk about dropping a perp like a brain shot buck! Sheeeeesh. You can use your fists or your open hands and just beat a guy near to the next life with very little effort.

Euclidean · May 6th, 2005, 10:33 PM

I might now have known what a flat sap is.

Where I come from it's called a "blackjack" even though I've heard that term applied to other blunt weapons.

Personally I don't own one because the public perception is that they're super duper XXX illegal.

Bud White · May 6th, 2005, 10:36 PM

Here ya go from Magills

May 4th, 2005, 07:38 AM	#13
ExSoldier VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Coral Gables, FL Posts: 4,209	Hey, it was the first weapon ever used by the brand new vigilante character in the FIRST "Death Wish" movie. Decked the mugger and split apart as the BG took off. Just imagine going from the "sock" to a .30 cal belt fed machinegun in "Death Wish 3!" __________________ Former Infantry Captain; 20 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.

May 4th, 2005, 10:09 AM	#14
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 20,001	The Flat Sap I was going to try to make one of those as a "leather project" ~ I have lots of old fine lead shot around. Maybe by sometime next year I'll get around to making one. Wasn't the whole idea behind the "Flat Sap" that you could knock the Bad Guys lights out ...without doing any physical damage to his stupid skull?

May 6th, 2005, 10:25 PM	#17
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 20,001	It's Amazing How many things that are fairly recent almost get lost to general population history. I'll bet you could ask 99% of the people walking around in the U.S. what a "FLAT SAP" is and not get one correct answer!

May 6th, 2005, 10:33 PM	#19
Euclidean VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 3,213	If not for my grandfather having a sizeable collection of them at one point... I might now have known what a flat sap is. Where I come from it's called a "blackjack" even though I've heard that term applied to other blunt weapons. Personally I don't own one because the public perception is that they're super duper XXX illegal. __________________ I am The Armed Educator.

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May 5th, 2005, 12:03 PM	#16
scbair Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 76	The flat sap was almost universally carried by the guys in my old department when I first walked through the door (1977). Pretty well banned by most departments, nowadays. I purchased and used (once!) a Bucheimer "Convoy" blackjack; 15-ounce rounded head of solid lead; spring handle covered with braided leather. Swatted a 6'2", 220 pound physical specimen (high on somethin') who was trying to beat down my partner. The dude collapsed like a brain-shot steer! Scared me half to death, 'cause I (and my partner) thought I'd killed him! He survived, but I did learn a lesson: The flat saps were less likely to cause concussions & skull fractures. Come to think of it, I do believe he learned a lesson, too!