The ''sock''!! - Page 3

Prospector · May 6th, 2005, 11:02 PM

Yup....Flat Saps Blackjacks and Noggin Slappers were/are illegal here in Texas, that's why I carried a "Tie Rod".......never knew when I might have to change one on the road!!!

Euclidean · May 6th, 2005, 11:10 PM

I don't have the Penal Code in front of me here but I think I did see the word "sap" in there on the prohibited weapons list.

I'd want to double check though. Every police officer in Texas will swear up and down and left and right that most steak knives are legal when they are in fact prohibited weapons.

By that same token, some automatic knives aren't strictly illegal if you read the Penal code word for word. Butterfly knives aren't strictly illegal either.

But I avoid them like the plague because of the perception that they're illegal everywhere in the U.S.A.

Oh dear heavens! That man has a balisong! We're all going to die!

Oh wait, never mind it's just a Louisville Slugger. We're okay now.

Idiocy...

P95Carry · May 6th, 2005, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Flat Saps Blackjacks and Noggin Slappers were/are illegal here in Texas

Probably here too - a reason why ''the sock'' has a sorta appeal!

Euclidean · May 6th, 2005, 11:21 PM

Padlock and a Bandanna.

Scott · May 6th, 2005, 11:28 PM

Lava soap is a good bar for a sock. It won't break up after the first hit like some of the regular bar soap does. Plus it handles the heat in a vehicle better.

Don't ask and I won't tell.

-Scott-

QKShooter · May 6th, 2005, 11:29 PM

Here it is right off "The Books"
"Pennsylvania Offensive Weapons."
Any bomb, grenade, machine gun, sawed-off shotgun with a barrel less than 18 inches, firearm specially made or specially adapted for concealment or silent discharge, any blackjack, sandbag, metal knuckles, dagger, knife, razor or cutting instrument, the blade of which is exposed in an automatic way by switch, push-button, spring mechanism, or otherwise, or other implement for the infliction of serious bodily injury which serves no common lawful purpose.

(d) Exemptions.--The use and possession of blackjacks by the following persons in the course of their duties are exempt from this section:

Police officers, as defined by and who meet the requirements of the act of June 18, 1974 (P.L.359, No.120), referred to as the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.
Police officers of first class cities who have successfully completed training which is substantially equivalent to the program under the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.
Pennsylvania State Police officers.
Sheriffs and deputy sheriffs of the various counties who have satisfactorily met the requirements of the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.
Police officers employed by the Commonwealth who have satisfactorily met the requirements of the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.
Deputy sheriffs with adequate training as determined by the Pennsylvania Commission on Crime and Delinquency.
Liquor Control Board agents who have satisfactorily met the requirements of the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.

Deke45 · May 7th, 2005, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bud White

Here ya go from Magills

Now your talkin Bud. I had a pair of these (probably different mfg then, don't remember) in the 70's and could easily take a man out with one punch...hmmm...wonder what happened to em anyway.

ExSoldier · May 7th, 2005, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bud White

Here ya go from Magills

I think GALLS police supply also sells them and so do some of the quasi-survival stores like Brigade Quartermaster or the CAV Store. Anyway they are STILL out there. Cost is usually about $50.

QKShooter · May 8th, 2005, 12:37 AM

I think "The New Sap Gloves" no longer contain powdered lead since it's an environmental hazard.

The liberals even have their hands in our gloves!

George Hill · May 8th, 2005, 03:32 PM

Of course you could always just go to a thift store, buy an old bat, glove and a ball... and keep them in your ride. The glove and ball for reason, the bat in case someone gets frisky.

May 6th, 2005, 11:02 PM	#21
Prospector Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 615	Yup....Flat Saps Blackjacks and Noggin Slappers were/are illegal here in Texas, that's why I carried a "Tie Rod".......never knew when I might have to change one on the road!!! __________________ "*Endeavor To Persevere*" Chief Dan George

May 6th, 2005, 11:10 PM	#22
Euclidean VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 3,213	I don't have the Penal Code in front of me here but I think I did see the word "sap" in there on the prohibited weapons list. I'd want to double check though. Every police officer in Texas will swear up and down and left and right that most steak knives are legal when they are in fact prohibited weapons. By that same token, some automatic knives aren't strictly illegal if you read the Penal code word for word. Butterfly knives aren't strictly illegal either. But I avoid them like the plague because of the perception that they're illegal everywhere in the U.S.A. Oh dear heavens! That man has a balisong! We're all going to die! Oh wait, never mind it's just a Louisville Slugger. We're okay now. Idiocy... __________________ I am The Armed Educator.

May 6th, 2005, 11:21 PM	#24
Euclidean VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 3,213	Padlock and a Bandanna. __________________ I am The Armed Educator.

May 6th, 2005, 11:29 PM	#26
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 19,997	Considered To Be An Offensive Weapon In PA. Here it is right off "The Books" "Pennsylvania Offensive Weapons." Any bomb, grenade, machine gun, sawed-off shotgun with a barrel less than 18 inches, firearm specially made or specially adapted for concealment or silent discharge, any blackjack, sandbag, metal knuckles, dagger, knife, razor or cutting instrument, the blade of which is exposed in an automatic way by switch, push-button, spring mechanism, or otherwise, or other implement for the infliction of serious bodily injury which serves no common lawful purpose. (d) Exemptions.--The use and possession of blackjacks by the following persons in the course of their duties are exempt from this section: Police officers, as defined by and who meet the requirements of the act of June 18, 1974 (P.L.359, No.120), referred to as the Municipal Police Education and Training Law. Police officers of first class cities who have successfully completed training which is substantially equivalent to the program under the Municipal Police Education and Training Law. Pennsylvania State Police officers. Sheriffs and deputy sheriffs of the various counties who have satisfactorily met the requirements of the Municipal Police Education and Training Law. Police officers employed by the Commonwealth who have satisfactorily met the requirements of the Municipal Police Education and Training Law. Deputy sheriffs with adequate training as determined by the Pennsylvania Commission on Crime and Delinquency. Liquor Control Board agents who have satisfactorily met the requirements of the Municipal Police Education and Training Law. __________________

May 8th, 2005, 12:37 AM	#29
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 19,997	Get This I think "The New Sap Gloves" no longer contain powdered lead since it's an environmental hazard. The liberals even have their hands in our gloves! __________________

May 6th, 2005, 11:28 PM	#25
Scott Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Old Dominion Posts: 4,475	Lava soap is a good bar for a sock. It won't break up after the first hit like some of the regular bar soap does. Plus it handles the heat in a vehicle better. Don't ask and I won't tell. -Scott-

May 8th, 2005, 03:32 PM	#30
George Hill Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: LaPoint Utah Posts: 324	Of course you could always just go to a thift store, buy an old bat, glove and a ball... and keep them in your ride. The glove and ball for reason, the bat in case someone gets frisky. __________________ www.MadOgre.com www.concealedcarrymag.com

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