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Knives & Other Weapons Most people that carry concealed also carry a knife or other weapon as a backup. Finding a good blade is often harder than finding a good pistol or revolver.

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Old August 2nd, 2007, 09:27 PM   #11
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I have 2 G2's - one on my bedside gun and one in my car. I carry an E2E in my edc bag every day, but it easily slips into the pocket as well - significantly slimmer than the G2 and I love the anodized body. You made a great purchase!
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 10:59 PM   #12
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again... Surefire. i don't want to cause friction but i also personally feel pelicans are knockoffs and found them to be totally unreliable and broken down more than turned on.

i have had my surefire for over 3 years (not my first) and it's worth the price of the batteries. ...keeps on ticking.
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Old August 4th, 2007, 03:32 AM   #13
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At this point, LED flashlight technology has come so far, gotten so bright and reliable, that I would never think of carrying an incandescent (read: prone to filament breakage) light again.

I would be wary of the Fenix lights, because as I understand it, their tailcap switches are what they call "reverse-clicky": when you press the switch, you get a click and then on the release of the switch, the light goes on. You don't get a momentary-on function with a reverse-clicky. I consider that bad. For any kind of tactical application, momentary-on is a must, is it not?

Now, about SureFire. I just got my first one, $99, the E1L Outdoorsman. When I tried it out in the store, I couldn't really tell how bright it was, but I knew it was likely to be bright enough to satisfy me. What I did have to make sure about was that even though it doesn't have that rubber combat-grip ring that their tactical lights have, I could hold it between fingers and use the heel of my palm to actuate the switch. I can. Easily.

So if you want something pocket sized that does not reach into the $200-300 range, go for the E1L (1 cell, 30 lumens in the updated model) or the E2L (2 cell, 45 lumens). The E1L is $99 as I said, and the E2L is about $129 or so. You will find yourself not wanting to be without this light.

I was going to recommend the Inova T2, which is a damn good flashlight (I have a T2 and a T3) but I have tried it out in that combat grip and can't make the switch go with my palm heel. In the thumb-at-the-back grip, it's fine, but that takes that hand away from being able to be a support hand for a pistol.

Remember, think hard about whether you want a reverse-clicky switch. You probably don't.
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Old August 4th, 2007, 07:13 AM   #14
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I love my Streamlights. I usually carry a TL-2. It is compact, very bright and has a clip for half of what a Surefire costs.
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I would be wary of the Fenix lights, because as I understand it, their tailcap switches are what they call "reverse-clicky": when you press the switch, you get a click and then on the release of the switch, the light goes on. You don't get a momentary-on function with a reverse-clicky. I consider that bad. For any kind of tactical application, momentary-on is a must, is it not?

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Any light that incorporates mode switching into the tailcap switch will not have a momentary on function. In the case of Fenix lights, the on/off switch also switches between the 9 lumen/40 lumen/90 lumen/SOS modes, and also between the 160 lumen/strobe modes on the tactical side. I find it easy enough to block the light with my palm or forearm if I need to, but IMHO I'd rather have the versatility of multiple modes for EDC over the tactical virtues of a momentary on tailcap.
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Just before i got out of LE i had a streamlight stinger . Now that was a handy little light with a fairly small footprint, and enough light to do the job . What all today would compaire to it ? I have not needed a light for many years , but now find myself wanting one that would roughly meet or exceed that old streamlight . Rechagable would be ok i guess but i would prefer replaceable batterys
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I carried a Streamlight Stinger on my job (basic security) when I first started and found I did not like it. First off, mine was a rechargeable and it seemed to lose light strength fast after about an hour or so. The button was very hard for me to push (nigh impossible) when I was wearing leather gloves. I also found the grip a bit too slippery for a possible defense situation. But that's just me. I recently bought a Brinkmann Maxfire for EDC and am thinking about buying a surefire for carry on my job. They just fit my style more.
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Old August 4th, 2007, 10:47 PM   #18
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Well I'm looking forward to getting my first one. I'm a real sucker for well crafted, machined items like a flashlight or gun. I'll definitely consider getting a variable output next for more general purpose uses.

Thanks again for all the inputs and God Bless!
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Old August 7th, 2007, 12:25 PM   #19
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Fenix or Streamlight.

I carry a Fenix P3D myself.

Anything over 60 lumens in the dark will cause disorientation. My P3D at 150 lumens or so will cause disorientation in much brighter conditions and much longer distances.
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one more in praise of the surefire's and the E2e.
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