Knife vs Gun - Page 5

kodiak1232003 · December 17th, 2007, 03:59 AM

reviving this thread a bit...read it from the beginning. good stuff.

I've always carried at least one knife on me for utility and defense. now that i have kids and always have my tactial diaper bag(maxpedition condor II) on me, i have another one on that as well as a backup...

both are buck folders, and both have served me well.

I'm of the opinion that here in commiefornia, its the best i can legally do to protect my family at the moment, along with having a head on a swivel when we are out.

Gary Crumrine · December 17th, 2007, 02:36 PM

Friends,

I have a friend who is a Master of San Soo, a Guro of Valencia Lameco Knife Techniques, a double graduate of Orange Gunsite, and a retired teacher of the splendid Turnipseed Technique. We have discussed this matter many times. His position is that within social distances he doesn't care whether he's armed with a pistol or a knife.

Hoot · December 18th, 2007, 04:52 AM

This knife demonstration video is pretty old stuff. I attended a Caliber Press seminar conducted for law enforcement types about twenty-five years ago where this was to be demonstrated. I was cheif of training for a federal agency at the time, and I took several of my instructional staff with me to the seminar. One of which was a new addition, a young fellow who, among other things, had volunteered for three tours in Nam as a recon Marine because he liked it. He was the most dangerous man I've ever known, and I've traveled in some rarified circles in my time.

At the seminar the m.c. introduced a wirey little Filipino who was a knife fighting guru. This fellow's method was to attack swiftly with two ordinary kitchen knives with one in each hand, both arms in very rapid constant motion going every which way. They began by letting him slice a suspended butcher paper dummy to shreds in a couple of seconds. Looked wicked.

The m.c. explained the next scenario that would take place. They would load wax bullets, primer fired, in the officers's guns, and they would substitute wooden knives that were dipped in red water paint for the kitchen knives. And they would put white doctor coats on officer vollunteers to protect them from the paint. The Filipino would wear a padded vest and gogles in case an officer managed to get off a shot. The M.C. then asked for volunteers. There were 250-300 officers of one type or another in the audience.

I leaned over and told my new hire that I was ordering him to volunteer. I wanted to see what he could do. He did so along with half a dozen other folks in the audience. As luck would have it, he was selected as the first victim perhaps because he was wearing a suit. He refused the white coat although he did remove his own jacket.

When the Filipino made his move, my boy instantly fell on his back, drawing (crossdraw holster)as he fell. That meant the knife weilder had to stop and bend down to get to him. But before that could happen he pumped two rounds into the guy. Then for good measure, and quick as a snake, he violently kicked the feet out from under the attacker and had his revolver against the poor fellow's head in a heartbeat.

Needless to say, that ruined the whole seminar.

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December 17th, 2007, 03:59 AM	#41
kodiak1232003 New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 3	reviving this thread a bit...read it from the beginning. good stuff. I've always carried at least one knife on me for utility and defense. now that i have kids and always have my tactial diaper bag(maxpedition condor II) on me, i have another one on that as well as a backup... both are buck folders, and both have served me well. I'm of the opinion that here in commiefornia, its the best i can legally do to protect my family at the moment, along with having a head on a swivel when we are out.

December 17th, 2007, 02:36 PM	#42
Gary Crumrine Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southwest Posts: 53	Friends, I have a friend who is a Master of San Soo, a Guro of Valencia Lameco Knife Techniques, a double graduate of Orange Gunsite, and a retired teacher of the splendid Turnipseed Technique. We have discussed this matter many times. His position is that within social distances he doesn't care whether he's armed with a pistol or a knife.

December 18th, 2007, 04:52 AM	#43
Hoot Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 127	This knife demonstration video is pretty old stuff. I attended a Caliber Press seminar conducted for law enforcement types about twenty-five years ago where this was to be demonstrated. I was cheif of training for a federal agency at the time, and I took several of my instructional staff with me to the seminar. One of which was a new addition, a young fellow who, among other things, had volunteered for three tours in Nam as a recon Marine because he liked it. He was the most dangerous man I've ever known, and I've traveled in some rarified circles in my time. At the seminar the m.c. introduced a wirey little Filipino who was a knife fighting guru. This fellow's method was to attack swiftly with two ordinary kitchen knives with one in each hand, both arms in very rapid constant motion going every which way. They began by letting him slice a suspended butcher paper dummy to shreds in a couple of seconds. Looked wicked. The m.c. explained the next scenario that would take place. They would load wax bullets, primer fired, in the officers's guns, and they would substitute wooden knives that were dipped in red water paint for the kitchen knives. And they would put white doctor coats on officer vollunteers to protect them from the paint. The Filipino would wear a padded vest and gogles in case an officer managed to get off a shot. The M.C. then asked for volunteers. There were 250-300 officers of one type or another in the audience. I leaned over and told my new hire that I was ordering him to volunteer. I wanted to see what he could do. He did so along with half a dozen other folks in the audience. As luck would have it, he was selected as the first victim perhaps because he was wearing a suit. He refused the white coat although he did remove his own jacket. When the Filipino made his move, my boy instantly fell on his back, drawing (crossdraw holster)as he fell. That meant the knife weilder had to stop and bend down to get to him. But before that could happen he pumped two rounds into the guy. Then for good measure, and quick as a snake, he violently kicked the feet out from under the attacker and had his revolver against the poor fellow's head in a heartbeat. Needless to say, that ruined the whole seminar.