More Zero Tolerance garbage! - Page 3

Bob The Great · September 17th, 2007, 04:58 PM

wow... that's ridiculous! I hope the school admins are pleased with themselves that they are effectively ruining this kids life.

The parents are right to fight this. A felony really does close a lot of doors, no matter what fantastic qualifications you have, because nobody bothers to look into the circumstances or details of the charge.

Sig 210 · September 17th, 2007, 05:44 PM

More feel good crap from the PC school administrators.

koolguynet · September 17th, 2007, 07:05 PM

It is amazing how much things have changed in the 11 years since I was in HS. When I was in HS I carried a pocket knife with me everyday. The 'cowboys' in our school carried much larger knives. I even remember seeing a .22 in a gun rack in a students truck. (I don't think that was wise.) Just a year or two ago we had an incident at a school in the greater Albuquerque area where a kid was long term suspended because he forgot about the knife in his back pack from that weekends camping trip. I understand about safety, but how many people get attacked with a Swiss Army knife? I hear the tweezers on mine can be quite deadly!

goawayfarm · September 17th, 2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Deacon51

Hell, I carried a knife from the time I was in the 7th grade. I still have it, and it's in my pocket right now. I'm 36 years old.

I did the same, starting in grade school. Even some of the teachers knew I had. I was even asked a couple of times BY A TEACHER that wanted to borrow it to cut something. It was pretty common place for at least somebody to have one in the room.

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Originally Posted by Miggy

The poll in the article is running 94% in favor of the kid. At least not all the common sense is gone

The depressing thing is 5% (92 people) responded that he should be charged!

P7fanatic · September 17th, 2007, 08:59 PM

I wonder what school admins will end up doing if some student somewhere decides to stick a #2 pencil into the chest of another student.

Ya think maybe they'll ban all pencils and only allow crayons into the schools?

retsupt99 · September 17th, 2007, 09:14 PM

Zero tolerance = no common sense...it eliminates all the difficulties in having to 'think'! Sad times...

Tom G · September 17th, 2007, 09:15 PM

Zero tolerance has out lived its usefullness if it had any to start with. If they are going to use this tool they need to find someone who has enough common sense to use it correctly. They should eliminate it it entirely due to misuse. There was no reason to expell this kid or make him a felon.

P95Carry · September 17th, 2007, 09:27 PM

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Ya think maybe they'll ban all pencils and only allow crayons into the schools?

But - isn't crayon wax flammable? Heck, as we know - about anything can be a weapon!

dr_cmg · September 17th, 2007, 11:18 PM

Wonder when these administrators' autos were searched. I would be willing to wager that most if not all could be charged under the zero tolerance rules as well.

I have often wondered where they get the arbitrary rule about blade length. Any idiot that thinks limiting the blade to 2" as opposed to 3" will protect someone is being a total loon. I seem to remember hijackers on 9/11 using box cutters. They have about 3/4" of blade showing. I may have to go back to my two Einstein stupidity quotes in my sig.

ccw9mm · September 17th, 2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dhbry232

When is enough, enough?

When everything by everyone has been deemed a criminal act. That will be the ultimate civilian population control mechanism, at least according to those who abdicate their responsibility to think.

September 17th, 2007, 07:05 PM	#23
koolguynet Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 202	It is amazing how much things have changed in the 11 years since I was in HS. When I was in HS I carried a pocket knife with me everyday. The 'cowboys' in our school carried much larger knives. I even remember seeing a .22 in a gun rack in a students truck. (I don't think that was wise.) Just a year or two ago we had an incident at a school in the greater Albuquerque area where a kid was long term suspended because he forgot about the knife in his back pack from that weekends camping trip. I understand about safety, but how many people get attacked with a Swiss Army knife? I hear the tweezers on mine can be quite deadly! __________________ S&W 642 -.38 spl +p S&W 1911- .45 Ruger P95DC- 9mm Kershaw Blackout 3.25" Kershaw Scallion 2.4" www.koolguy.net

September 17th, 2007, 09:14 PM	#26
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,361	Zero tolerance = no common sense...it eliminates all the difficulties in having to 'think'! Sad times... __________________ ‘‘Four out of five politicians surveyed prefered unarmed, ignorant peasants.’’ — Unknown Liberals are as American as 'dog dodo' pie...

September 17th, 2007, 11:18 PM	#29
dr_cmg Lead Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,205	Wonder when these administrators' autos were searched. I would be willing to wager that most if not all could be charged under the zero tolerance rules as well. I have often wondered where they get the arbitrary rule about blade length. Any idiot that thinks limiting the blade to 2" as opposed to 3" will protect someone is being a total loon. I seem to remember hijackers on 9/11 using box cutters. They have about 3/4" of blade showing. I may have to go back to my two Einstein stupidity quotes in my sig. __________________ George Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. Albert Einstein

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September 17th, 2007, 04:58 PM	#21
Bob The Great Distinguished Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 1,403	wow... that's ridiculous! I hope the school admins are pleased with themselves that they are effectively ruining this kids life. The parents are right to fight this. A felony really does close a lot of doors, no matter what fantastic qualifications you have, because nobody bothers to look into the circumstances or details of the charge.

September 17th, 2007, 05:44 PM	#22
Sig 210 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hog Hollow Posts: 605	More feel good crap from the PC school administrators.

September 17th, 2007, 08:59 PM	#25
P7fanatic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Texan in NWFlorida Posts: 1,028	I wonder what school admins will end up doing if some student somewhere decides to stick a #2 pencil into the chest of another student. Ya think maybe they'll ban all pencils and only allow crayons into the schools?

September 17th, 2007, 09:15 PM	#27
Tom G Distinguished Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orlando Fl. Posts: 1,309	Zero tolerance has out lived its usefullness if it had any to start with. If they are going to use this tool they need to find someone who has enough common sense to use it correctly. They should eliminate it it entirely due to misuse. There was no reason to expell this kid or make him a felon.