Knife question - Page 2

The Tourist · June 15th, 2005, 08:20 PM

Are these laws that are just "on the books," or are they aggressively prosecuted?

For example, I know Utah is a conservative state, but a Buck 110 has to be the most common knife in America.

Doesn't anyone hunt in Utah?

Prospector · June 15th, 2005, 08:47 PM

Gotta agree with Euc's last post....knife laws are in general really ridiculous. Texas allows a fixed blade of no more than 5 1/2 inches (my TOPS Black Star meets this requirement). But, it is illegal to have a "Bowie"....now, let's see here.....suppose I have a "Bowie" that has a blade of 5 1/2"....according to our "law" it would be illegal! go figure!

The Tourist · June 15th, 2005, 11:57 PM

I've always found that factoid a bit odd for Texas.

"Excuse me, Mr. James Bowie, would you mind stepping down from the wall for a moment? Yes, I'm aware it's a church. Yes, I'm aware you're surrounded by hostile Mexican nationals. I'm from the Department of Public Safety stationed here in San Antonio, and we'd like to measure that Toothpick of yours. Yes, Mr. Bowie, we know that you're fighting for freedom, and we appreciate that, but I don't make the laws here in Texas..."

MechE · June 16th, 2005, 03:19 PM

I have knife with a 7" blade, hollow handle and a little nifty compass in the cap. I would call this knife a "Rambo Knife". VA law makes no mention of blade length and only covers dirks, bowies, num chucks (don't even know how to spell num chucks) etc....

So I would assume "Rambo" knives are legal.........well maybe not

I bet most of the law makers in this country don't even know what a Dirk is. I think all the knife laws in this country were writen back in the 1800's.

Prospector · June 16th, 2005, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MechE

I have knife with a 7" blade, hollow handle and a little nifty compass in the cap. I would call this knife a "Rambo Knife". VA law makes no mention of blade length and only covers dirks, bowies, num chucks (don't even know how to spell num chucks) etc....

So I would assume "Rambo" knives are legal.........well maybe not

I bet most of the law makers in this country don't even know what a Dirk is. I think all the knife laws in this country were writen back in the 1800's.

Just be sure to carry a receipt or tag that says "Rambo" not "Bowie" !

Desert Rat · June 20th, 2005, 07:29 PM

I lived in Utah for six years, from '99-'05, and carried daily twin Spydercos, a superknife for utility work, a Kasper Companion, and sometimes a Cold Steel Voyager X2.

I'd been pulled over by cops a half-dozen times, and they just looked at my knives and didn't even blink. One even asked where he could get a Voyager like mine.

So as far as I know, locking knives are legal in UT.

Oh, yeah. And it's my first post here. Hi everyone.

P95Carry · June 20th, 2005, 08:22 PM

Hi Rat!!! Welcome to CC

rocky · June 20th, 2005, 10:58 PM

MI law is even more screwy. One section calls for blade length 3" and under. Another section says carrying a knife is only illegal is carried with unlawful intent.

KenpoTex · June 21st, 2005, 03:55 AM

You want one thats really weird? In Missouri, the law states that it has to be "an ordinary pocketknife with a blade no more than 4"." Who gets to decide what qualifies as an "ordinary" knife? I mean, 15 years ago if you walked into a sporting-good store or a wal-mart all you'd see would be Buck 110's and Old-timers. Now they sell assisted opening Kershaws and Buck Striders. To me that says that the "ordinary" knives aren't the same as they used to be. Once again, I think it's just a case of making the law vague enough so an officer or prosecuter can do whatever they want.

That being said, I recently had a cop ask me what I was carrying, when I showed him my Dremel-waved Endura and Delica he thought they were the coolest things he'd ever seen.

Tom357 · June 21st, 2005, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yrustuk

I have a CWP and I have mounted in my vehicle a bowie knife (for just in case). I was wondering if it is covered in VA by my CWP?

Short answer - no, the permit does not cover knives. In Virginia, it is a permit to carry a concealed handgun.

June 15th, 2005, 08:47 PM	#12
Prospector Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 615	Gotta agree with Euc's last post....knife laws are in general really ridiculous. Texas allows a fixed blade of no more than 5 1/2 inches (my TOPS Black Star meets this requirement). But, it is illegal to have a "Bowie"....now, let's see here.....suppose I have a "Bowie" that has a blade of 5 1/2"....according to our "law" it would be illegal! go figure! __________________ "*Endeavor To Persevere*" Chief Dan George

June 16th, 2005, 03:19 PM	#14
MechE Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern VA Posts: 135	I have knife with a 7" blade, hollow handle and a little nifty compass in the cap. I would call this knife a "Rambo Knife". VA law makes no mention of blade length and only covers dirks, bowies, num chucks (don't even know how to spell num chucks) etc.... So I would assume "Rambo" knives are legal.........well maybe not I bet most of the law makers in this country don't even know what a Dirk is. I think all the knife laws in this country were writen back in the 1800's. __________________ "EVERYONE is operating with only partial information" :hand27: Some Wise Guy, USA 2001 Last edited by MechE; June 16th, 2005 at 03:23 PM. Reason: Just another thought.

June 20th, 2005, 08:22 PM	#17
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	Hi Rat!!! Welcome to CC __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

June 21st, 2005, 03:55 AM	#19
KenpoTex Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Springfield, Missouri Posts: 1,771	You want one thats really weird? In Missouri, the law states that it has to be "an ordinary pocketknife with a blade no more than 4"." Who gets to decide what qualifies as an "ordinary" knife? I mean, 15 years ago if you walked into a sporting-good store or a wal-mart all you'd see would be Buck 110's and Old-timers. Now they sell assisted opening Kershaws and Buck Striders. To me that says that the "ordinary" knives aren't the same as they used to be. Once again, I think it's just a case of making the law vague enough so an officer or prosecuter can do whatever they want. That being said, I recently had a cop ask me what I was carrying, when I showed him my Dremel-waved Endura and Delica he thought they were the coolest things he'd ever seen. __________________ "There are no substitutes for violence of action and volume of fire..." ~Otto Skorzeny If you carry in Condition 3, you have two empty chambers. One in the weapon...the other between your ears. Matt K.

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June 15th, 2005, 08:20 PM	#11
The Tourist Former Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 693	Are these laws that are just "on the books," or are they aggressively prosecuted? For example, I know Utah is a conservative state, but a Buck 110 has to be the most common knife in America. Doesn't anyone hunt in Utah?

June 15th, 2005, 11:57 PM	#13
The Tourist Former Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 693	I've always found that factoid a bit odd for Texas. "Excuse me, Mr. James Bowie, would you mind stepping down from the wall for a moment? Yes, I'm aware it's a church. Yes, I'm aware you're surrounded by hostile Mexican nationals. I'm from the Department of Public Safety stationed here in San Antonio, and we'd like to measure that Toothpick of yours. Yes, Mr. Bowie, we know that you're fighting for freedom, and we appreciate that, but I don't make the laws here in Texas..."

June 20th, 2005, 07:29 PM	#16
Desert Rat New Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Big AZ Posts: 2	I lived in Utah for six years, from '99-'05, and carried daily twin Spydercos, a superknife for utility work, a Kasper Companion, and sometimes a Cold Steel Voyager X2. I'd been pulled over by cops a half-dozen times, and they just looked at my knives and didn't even blink. One even asked where he could get a Voyager like mine. So as far as I know, locking knives are legal in UT. Oh, yeah. And it's my first post here. Hi everyone.

June 20th, 2005, 10:58 PM	#18
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 11,767	MI law is even more screwy. One section calls for blade length 3" and under. Another section says carrying a knife is only illegal is carried with unlawful intent.