The Cold Steel City Stick - Page 2

Bud White · July 22nd, 2005, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob72

."right ball- back pocket"

Man thats too funny

rocky · July 23rd, 2005, 10:40 AM

best to reseach your states laws before hand. In MI it would be questionable if it is legal or not. However a walking stick , made for the purpose of walking would be.

TwoRavens · July 23rd, 2005, 07:18 PM

Some other alternatives:

More money but very cool: Canemasters

Some other Steel shaft canes: Mendowood

Go Anywhere: Magic Flute

bubbygator · July 24th, 2005, 02:16 PM

Here's what this old man uses:

http://shilohreed.zoovy.com/product/...A=froogle-A510

Brian45 · July 25th, 2005, 11:06 PM

The use of a cane/walking stick in public by a otherwise healthy person leads me to ask some questions. What would be the perception of the average LE officer to seeing a 31 year old walking down a city block carrying a big stick with a shiny metal ball on the end of it be? Also, someone walking with, and carrying a cane may seem to be more inviting to a BG. If a cane was used in self defensive in this situation would a eager liberal prosocuter be more likely to charge the user with "Criminal Baiting"? Just some thoughts that come to mind.

P95Carry · July 26th, 2005, 01:36 AM

I have wondered re a healthy - anyways, young person - unless a faked limp is added.

I don't think it need necessarily be more attractive to a BG - that will depend on the individuals outgoing ''victim'' vibes. A walk with a cane but including an assured ''don't mess with me'' attitude should suffice.

I can get away with it tho - beard near white - very graying hair and a slight ''uncomfortable'' gait. Plus I do not look too friendly sometimes!

Of course, under most circumstances I will be accompanied anyways by Mr SIG!

AutoFan · July 26th, 2005, 12:45 PM

It all depends on your situation. I know I carry a knife just about everywhere, especially those places I can't carry a gun. If I were going someplace formal that a gun was not legally allowed at, a classy looking cane would be just the thing to give you some reach. If you were hiking (or dressed for hiking), a wooden walking stick would not look strange.

Just consider it a possible tool for self defense.

TwoRavens · July 26th, 2005, 04:21 PM

I don;t think a stick is that much of give-away. Depends on the type. The crook top ones look prinnocuous. I'm 39, but like to use a cane if I'm walking anywhere particularly if it stop/start stuff like museums/zoos/art fairs etc, otherwise the arthritis in my knee gets really painful.

Lawrence Keeney · July 27th, 2005, 01:12 AM

It's esy for me, because I have a bad back due to an inattentive driver. Let me tell you one thing, if you look like you need a cane people will assume you need a cane. Pay attention to your body language, because the public will.

Rob72 · July 27th, 2005, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian45

The use of a cane/walking stick in public by a otherwise healthy person leads me to ask some questions. What would be the perception of the average LE officer to seeing a 31 year old walking down a city block carrying a big stick with a shiny metal ball on the end of it be? Also, someone walking with, and carrying a cane may seem to be more inviting to a BG. If a cane was used in self defensive in this situation would a eager liberal prosocuter be more likely to charge the user with "Criminal Baiting"? Just some thoughts that come to mind.

This relates to the many "Intention" laws on the books. Basically,(bluntly) you have to calculate the number of dicks per patrol unit in your locality. If the # of dicks is high, you may be "tagged" if you carry your SureFire, or Inova. Carrying this thinking (by the citizen or LE) to its logical conclusion, you will never be armed, or defend yourself, in extremis. I venture to say that everyone here carries impact "weapons" of one sort or another. Regarding "baiting", this is why I would not affect a limp. If a BG assaults an apparently healthy individual, with "exquisite posture", and if you comport yourself as a "Gentleman/-woman", I think you could more than hold your own with any competent attorney.

Canes are a "fashion accessory"; you should have one for any style of dress you feel it would be appropriate to carry one. Slacks & polo shirt- a City Stick with the faux cocoblo head, or one of the "less hefty" all-wood CS canes. Business/casual business attire, travelling to a downtown area (Chicago, NY, SD, etc., )- the SS ball would not be out of place.

July 23rd, 2005, 07:18 PM	#13
TwoRavens Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 115	Some other alternatives: More money but very cool: Canemasters Some other Steel shaft canes: Mendowood Go Anywhere: Magic Flute __________________ /********* Phill **********/ "Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate" William of Ockham (ca. 1285-1349)

July 26th, 2005, 01:36 AM	#16
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	I have wondered re a healthy - anyways, young person - unless a faked limp is added. I don't think it need necessarily be more attractive to a BG - that will depend on the individuals outgoing ''victim'' vibes. A walk with a cane but including an assured ''don't mess with me'' attitude should suffice. I can get away with it tho - beard near white - very graying hair and a slight ''uncomfortable'' gait. Plus I do not look too friendly sometimes! Of course, under most circumstances I will be accompanied anyways by Mr SIG! __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

July 26th, 2005, 04:21 PM	#18
TwoRavens Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 115	I don;t think a stick is that much of give-away. Depends on the type. The crook top ones look prinnocuous. I'm 39, but like to use a cane if I'm walking anywhere particularly if it stop/start stuff like museums/zoos/art fairs etc, otherwise the arthritis in my knee gets really painful. __________________ /********* Phill **********/ "Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate" William of Ockham (ca. 1285-1349)

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July 23rd, 2005, 10:40 AM	#12
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 11,767	best to reseach your states laws before hand. In MI it would be questionable if it is legal or not. However a walking stick , made for the purpose of walking would be.

July 24th, 2005, 02:16 PM	#14
bubbygator Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sarasota Posts: 62	Here's what this old man uses: http://shilohreed.zoovy.com/product/...A=froogle-A510

July 25th, 2005, 11:06 PM	#15
Brian45 Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 195	The use of a cane/walking stick in public by a otherwise healthy person leads me to ask some questions. What would be the perception of the average LE officer to seeing a 31 year old walking down a city block carrying a big stick with a shiny metal ball on the end of it be? Also, someone walking with, and carrying a cane may seem to be more inviting to a BG. If a cane was used in self defensive in this situation would a eager liberal prosocuter be more likely to charge the user with "Criminal Baiting"? Just some thoughts that come to mind.

July 26th, 2005, 12:45 PM	#17
AutoFan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 945	It all depends on your situation. I know I carry a knife just about everywhere, especially those places I can't carry a gun. If I were going someplace formal that a gun was not legally allowed at, a classy looking cane would be just the thing to give you some reach. If you were hiking (or dressed for hiking), a wooden walking stick would not look strange. Just consider it a possible tool for self defense.

July 27th, 2005, 01:12 AM	#19
Lawrence Keeney Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 327	It's esy for me, because I have a bad back due to an inattentive driver. Let me tell you one thing, if you look like you need a cane people will assume you need a cane. Pay attention to your body language, because the public will.