Martial arts - Page 2

c3ks · December 18th, 2007, 10:40 AM

Muay Thai and Boxing mainly. Dabled in Escrima, Kali and Jiu Jitsu. Recently, I have gotten into Krav Maga and like it. Very practical and easy to learn. No katas, no uniforms, very straight forward. I still spar a few times a week in Muay Thai and I agree with the statement about sparring. It's been several years since I've been knocked out, but I think it's good for people to know if they if they can take a punch. Punching/hitting pads is will not prepare you for a fight.

One thing I do like about Krav Maga is that we are taken through scenarios where they try to create as close to a real life stressful situation as possible. Some of the scenarios include being attacked (sometimes by multiple people) in complete darkness or being blindfolded with music playing so loud you can't hear anything around you.

I have read good things about F.I.G.H.T. on the internet, but no one I know has trained in it. It looks interesting.

Whatever you do in martial arts- commit to it. I know a lot of people that start and quit. Or dabble in it and have a false sense of security- kinda like the suburban housewives who think they can fend off an attacker because they do TaeBo at the healthclub.

tns0038 · December 18th, 2007, 11:03 AM

As a child starting in 4th grade I had four years of Judo. Then starting in 10th grade I took Shorin Ryu a form of Chinese martial arts for 9 years. The instructor was also a former Marine, so he taught the upper class (brown and black belts only) allot of real world confrontational, and self defense with knifes and sidearms. And the assistant instructor was a former Vietnam monk. Real treat to watch and learn from him...

And for a couple of years, I worked at the dojo part-time teaching a woman’s self defense class.

I am now 25 years out of practice and out of shape, but, the funny thing is its ingrain upon my instinct, which worries me.

Pro2A · December 18th, 2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by libertarian5

There has been a lot of commercialization of the martial arts. Since not everyone likes to get hit, there has been a proliferation of no-contact schools. I would stay away from those. Find a school that allows a bit of the real deal and see how it goes.

Aikido is more of a defensive martial art. Most martial arts seem to be about bone breaking and offensive. Aikido uses joints, and the attackers energy to throw him down. If you hold and lock a joint just right, the attacker will have no choice but to fall. I remember when I was taking it, I was throwing other class mates double my size to the ground. As you can see here in this video, he's not destroying his attacker, just rendering him harmless. What they don't show, and what thy do teach is how to hold and lock the BG into place once he is on the ground. Its a good martial art if youre not into breaking noses, pain and lots of painful physical contact. The man in the black pants is the Aikido master.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPx7IAlRj_A

c3ks · December 19th, 2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro2A

The man in the black pants is the Aikido master.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPx7IAlRj_A

Dude, that was hilarious.

Pro2A · December 19th, 2007, 11:13 AM

Thats why I like Aikido. Other martial arts concentrate on kicking each others butts. If you have two people being offensive you'll get no where. You need to learn to defend from an agressor, not attack back. Thats what Aikido teaches.

c3ks · December 19th, 2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pro2A

As you can see here in this video, he's not destroying his attacker, just rendering him harmless. What they don't show, and what thy do teach is how to hold and lock the BG into place once he is on the ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPx7IAlRj_A

I'm not knocking Aikido. What I found to be funny is calling the so-called "jiu jitsu" attacker. I think he was rendered harmless before he even began any of his attacks.

What I can't make sense of is why I would want to hold a BG in place who just attacked me. IMHO, the goal of "self" defense, is to defend against an attack and get the hell out of there. I'm not a cop and I'm not interested in holding a suspect. Your needs may be different.

airbornerangerboogie · December 19th, 2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pro2A

Thats why I like Aikido. Other martial arts concentrate on kicking each others butts. If you have two people being offensive you'll get no where. You need to learn to defend from an agressor, not attack back. Thats what Aikido teaches.

I've got a gut level feeling that the Aikido Master wouldn't last too long in a real no holds barred tooth n nails knock-down drag-out street fight. Demo's are just that, demos, a street fighter isn't going to be attacking nicely, just quick and mean. Aikido is a beautiful art though.

Pro2A · December 19th, 2007, 06:57 PM

Thats what Aikido teaches, it teaches how to defend yourself from the hard stuff, punches, kicks, knives and other weapons. Our instructor spent a few days teaching us street fighting defensive moves. He said attack me with this stick and pretend its a knife. I rushed towards him pretending it was a knife, and sure enough I was disarmed and on the ground moments later. Sure this situation might be all pretty and for show, but when it comes down to it I'd hate to be on the receiving end of a mad person who knows Aikido. They can throw your butt to the ground and knock the wind out of you, at which point you can flee or hold the BG at bay til LEO's arrive.

TexasAg · December 19th, 2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by airbornerangerboogie

I've got a gut level feeling that the Aikido Master wouldn't last too long in a real no holds barred tooth n nails knock-down drag-out street fight. Demo's are just that, demos, a street fighter isn't going to be attacking nicely, just quick and mean. Aikido is a beautiful art though.

+1

Aikido really is a nice looking martial art. There are some elements of it that could be put to use in a "real" situation. But if you're relying solely on Aikido to defend yourself in a street fight with somebody that has any kind of idea about what he's doing, you're going to be in a world of hurt.

I shudder to think what would happen if you stuck an Aikido master in the ring with an MMA or BJJ expert. It wouldn't be pretty...

GlockAddict · December 19th, 2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pro2A

Anyone here know any martial arts? I took Aikido as a teenager. I'm no blackbelt, and haven't taken classes in years, but I remember a few moves and practice them at home often, open palm hit, wrist lock etc... Aikido teaches you where all the joint locks on the body are, so if you do knock a BG out, or to the ground, you can lock him in place no matter how big he is until LE arrives.

That's cool, I've done both Aikikai and Yoshinkan. Isn't it fun to show people nikkyo?

December 18th, 2007, 10:40 AM	#11
c3ks Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Middle of Nowhere Posts: 21	Muay Thai and Boxing mainly. Dabled in Escrima, Kali and Jiu Jitsu. Recently, I have gotten into Krav Maga and like it. Very practical and easy to learn. No katas, no uniforms, very straight forward. I still spar a few times a week in Muay Thai and I agree with the statement about sparring. It's been several years since I've been knocked out, but I think it's good for people to know if they if they can take a punch. Punching/hitting pads is will not prepare you for a fight. One thing I do like about Krav Maga is that we are taken through scenarios where they try to create as close to a real life stressful situation as possible. Some of the scenarios include being attacked (sometimes by multiple people) in complete darkness or being blindfolded with music playing so loud you can't hear anything around you. I have read good things about F.I.G.H.T. on the internet, but no one I know has trained in it. It looks interesting. Whatever you do in martial arts- commit to it. I know a lot of people that start and quit. Or dabble in it and have a false sense of security- kinda like the suburban housewives who think they can fend off an attacker because they do TaeBo at the healthclub. __________________ --- It is said that the nation that draws too great a distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.

December 19th, 2007, 11:13 AM	#15
Pro2A Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Franklin County Pennsylvania Posts: 949	Thats why I like Aikido. Other martial arts concentrate on kicking each others butts. If you have two people being offensive you'll get no where. You need to learn to defend from an agressor, not attack back. Thats what Aikido teaches. __________________ America - The Constitutionalist Free Republic .45 Glock 36, 9mm Taurus PT111 Pro, Kel-Tec P3AT .380, Taurus 85 Revolver .38 Spc., 9mm EAA Witness, Savage .270, Savage .22, Mossburg Maverick 88 12 gauge, New England Pardner 12 gauge, WASR-10 AK-47, Mauser 98K 8mm and a Bushmaster M4A1 .223

December 19th, 2007, 06:57 PM	#18
Pro2A Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Franklin County Pennsylvania Posts: 949	Thats what Aikido teaches, it teaches how to defend yourself from the hard stuff, punches, kicks, knives and other weapons. Our instructor spent a few days teaching us street fighting defensive moves. He said attack me with this stick and pretend its a knife. I rushed towards him pretending it was a knife, and sure enough I was disarmed and on the ground moments later. Sure this situation might be all pretty and for show, but when it comes down to it I'd hate to be on the receiving end of a mad person who knows Aikido. They can throw your butt to the ground and knock the wind out of you, at which point you can flee or hold the BG at bay til LEO's arrive. __________________ America - The Constitutionalist Free Republic .45 Glock 36, 9mm Taurus PT111 Pro, Kel-Tec P3AT .380, Taurus 85 Revolver .38 Spc., 9mm EAA Witness, Savage .270, Savage .22, Mossburg Maverick 88 12 gauge, New England Pardner 12 gauge, WASR-10 AK-47, Mauser 98K 8mm and a Bushmaster M4A1 .223

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December 18th, 2007, 11:03 AM	#12
tns0038 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,177	As a child starting in 4th grade I had four years of Judo. Then starting in 10th grade I took Shorin Ryu a form of Chinese martial arts for 9 years. The instructor was also a former Marine, so he taught the upper class (brown and black belts only) allot of real world confrontational, and self defense with knifes and sidearms. And the assistant instructor was a former Vietnam monk. Real treat to watch and learn from him... And for a couple of years, I worked at the dojo part-time teaching a woman’s self defense class. I am now 25 years out of practice and out of shape, but, the funny thing is its ingrain upon my instinct, which worries me.