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Anyone here know any martial arts? I took Aikido as a teenager. I'm no blackbelt, and haven't taken classes in years, but I remember a few moves and practice them at home often, open palm hit, wrist lock etc... Aikido teaches you where all the joint locks on the body are, so if you do knock a BG out, or to the ground, you can lock him in place no matter how big he is until LE arrives.

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packinnova

Ahh...gotta love archives. These other threads should get you going...

Practical martial arts/self defense courses.
Martial arts anyone??
Hand to hand combat
Fighting can be dirty!
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or Krav Maga?

If you're looking for something practical on the street check these guys out. I don't know if any of these PA locations are near you, but it's worth a shot to go check them out one day if one is close.
http://www.fight2survive.com/locations.php?state=pa

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AMH

I have several years experience with martial arts.
Make sure what ever system you get into that you have live training with a resisting partner. Also, stay away from any sort of contract requirements. And stay away from "mcdojos". Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDojo

If your not sparing than your not training.

Edited: Hey mods, can I list a name of another forum that will really help this guy?

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Ridgerunner665

Amen to that...and sparring hard...a bloody nose will teach you alot.
But so does control..but you have to spar...I took my son out a dojo because they wouldnt spar....put him back in at my old school.

I'm a 3rd degree black belt SiKang (an offshoot of Tae Kwon Do with less high kicks and more hard fist punches)...and was a bouncer for 4 years, and I'm only a little guy. You can never be really good at it if you dont get to use it.

airbornerangerboogie

Almost 40 years ago I took up Hapkido while in Korea, it's similar to Taekwondo with jujitsu and aikido thrown in. I taught for many years and fought during the infancy of full contact with the likes of Demetrius Havanas and Bill Wallace (now I feel older than dirt). Most schools will give you free introductory lessons or a least watch a class. Picking a school and it's teacher is a personal thing, just like choosing a CCW. You can get all the advice you desire from others, but at some point you must choose. My .02 cents worth is to stay away from the schools were you're taught to fight in formalized patterns. Bruce Lee once said, "If you train to fight in a formalized pattern you will only ever be as good a fighter as the pattern it's self".
Make sure they spar, with the proper equipment of course, sparing is how you learn and become skilled. Don't be afraid to get hit, that's part of the learning. Lastly stay away from the schools that advertise "death grips, vibrating palm, rip an opponents heart out" kinda sales gimmicks. I'm not saying they don't exist, but like UFO's I've never seen one, but most of the people who are trying to get me to believe in UFO's also like to wear aluminum foil hats.

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libertarian5

I am a third degree black belt - Moo Duk Kwan version of Tae Kwon Do. I started in the military and when I got out I got hooked up with some Koreans and ran a school for 20 years - I quit when my knees started giving out. I can still do a few things, but you have to stay active with it to be very good.

There has been a lot of commercialization of the martial arts. Since not everyone likes to get hit, there has been a proliferation of no-contact schools. I would stay away from those. Find a school that allows a bit of the real deal and see how it goes.

packinnova

This is exactly why I went with the Haganah/F.I.G.H.T system I found. You can't train in that without the sparring. The entire time I was there it was basically constant sparring. And you train in your street attire(except for the shoes...dress shoes are an obvious no-no), no funky uniforms or anything, just what you're comfortable in. I came home bruised and battered most nights. It wasn't from the instructors trying to show people up or anything(as you see in most mcdojo's). It's just a fact or reality of constantly sparring with various folks for a few hours every other night. You're going to get hit and it's going to hurt even if they are trying to "pull" the punches.

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I started with Shorin Ryu Karate, dabbled in a lot of other stuff, eventually moved on to Kali Silat, and right now I am playing with Hayastan a little. Karate was fun, and I thought I could fight until I played with some scenario training and realized sparring is just another game to learn from, but doesn't reflect real fighting or self defense in the least. Hayastan is the most "intelligent" grappling system I have ever come across, but it is still primarily a sport system more suited for MMA than real self defense. Kali Silat is a challenging and very educational martial art but the learning curve is pretty high, and it takes quite a while to get somewhat proficient with it.

Realistically speaking, any program that emphasizes situational awareness, scenario training, legal aspects of the employment of weapons (and the ability to do so under duress), and how to handle the aftermath of an aggressive encounter will always trump formal martial arts classes in my opinion.

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I studied judo for a few years, did the USJA competitions and stuff like that. We always sparred, but never got hit because hitting isn't a part of judo.

Despite the lack of punching and taking punches, judo is an eminently practical style, very useful on the street. I highly recommend it.

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