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Knives & Other Weapons Most people that concealed carry also carry a knife or other weapon as a backup. Finding a good blade is often harder than finding a good pistol or revolver.

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Old March 30th, 2008, 10:11 AM   #1
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Opinions on CRKT 'Ringer'?

I am interested in a tool for general knife stuff as well as backup (backup-backup?), and I am trying to live frugally so I can buy my wife a G19 for her birthday. I have been told that a knife with a finger-hole is a great idea so it doesn't twist or get dropped.

The HAK are cute, and probably extremely effective, but there are several well-developed threads already in the archives(for example, Hide Away Knife- New Addition). I would like one, but the price kind of dampens my ardor.

What do you folks think of these styles? For $22-27, might one if these be a good choice?





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Old March 30th, 2008, 10:15 AM   #2
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I like the middle one, sort of, because it's karambit-like; however, to do the control techniques possible with a karambit, one would need a full-size handle for the required leverage.

I'd have to reserve judgment until I've handled one for myself.

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Old March 30th, 2008, 04:15 PM   #3
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I think I like a push knife better than a finger hole style. Those holes look painful somehow.
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Old March 30th, 2008, 05:43 PM   #4
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I'm thinking it would be a great way to break some fingers... but I'm not a knife guy.
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Old March 30th, 2008, 07:38 PM   #5
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Looking at that, it seems to me that you might have a problem "indexing" the fingers in the holes under stress. The LaGriffe and the HAK only have one hole to worry about, with this one, you've got twice as much to accomplish.

If the cost of the other two I mentioned (HAK & LaGriffe) is more than you want to spend right now, I'd recommend the Ka-Bar TDI. They can be had for $30 or less and give you a much better (IMO) knife.
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Old March 30th, 2008, 08:47 PM   #6
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I've considered getting a ringer in the past for the same reasons mentioned. I wanted something that I could have completely tucked behind my waistband that I could easily grasp without looking (or cutting myself). I really like the HAK's different concealment options and figured those could carry over to the ringer in some way. I also liked the price of the ringer vs. the HAK. Never did pull the trigger and get one though. I've stuck with folders. A TDI may be in the future though...
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Old April 13th, 2008, 06:04 PM   #7
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If you get a TDI, you might want to check out On/Scene Tactical's Multi-Carry sheath. He also has one available for the La Griffe.
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Old April 14th, 2008, 10:52 PM   #8
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I've never handled one, although pricewise it seems like a good deal, & I do like knives with a finger hole in them. However, "KenpoTex" made some very good points. There're 2 holes instead of one, that can be a problem in a high stress situation. Also, there're some very good knives that I'd probably get before getting a Ringer. The least expensive one would be the TDI. The Emerson La Griffe & HAK's utility model are both close in price, & Spyderco's SPOT. I have all the listed knives, except the Ringer & La Griffe. I used to have the La Griffe, but prefer Spyderco's SPOT to it, mainly because of their "regular" blade vs Emerson's chisel grind, which I'm not a fan of. The Spyderco SPOTs are discontinued, though, so they're going up in price.

While I really like my utility HAK (440C straight edge), Ka-Bar's TDI is very good too & probably easier to use in a crisis, plus its blade is a bit larger & probably more useful.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 09:35 PM   #9
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I too like the push dagger types from Cold Steel, but alas they are illegal to carry where I live.
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I vote for a spring assist something, maybe a trip to WalMart and the sporting goods area is in the makings. Maybe a Kershaw ... works for me for about $45.
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