9mmMike

Awesome brother! I will need to look for a PCA church in my area.

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miklcolt45

I am a United Methodist pastor who lives/works in a denomination that is often far more liberal than I am. Being in the South (I know, FL is barely the South, but it is still the South), Methodism here is somewhat more conservative than the NE and Kali-fornia. Still, I don't advertise my views on guns as I am sure I would get lots of really strange looks and comments.

I don't know anyone else who really cares. Our choir director is also an attorney and has his CWL but does not carry often. Our Youth guy and I have gone shooting. But, don't know of anyone else...YET.

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Gary Brommeland

Perhaps it would be helpful to show her the story in Genesis (Chapt 14) where Abraham attacked and killed a neighboring King (and looted out all of his possessions) because he and his army had kidnapped his (Abraham's) nephew, Lot. As you read, take note that it speaks of Abraham's servants being "trained in the arts of war". They were not unarmed, nor were they untrained. They were in essence Abraham's private army - they numbered 318.

Note Also that Malki-Tzedek (believed by many scholars to have actually been God in physical form) blessed him for what he had done (verses 18-20).

If she is a "New Testament" kinda person, then perhaps Luke 22:36 would be helpful.

Perhaps explaining to her that the word "Husband" means care taker, protector & provider might also help her gain perspective. You cannot fulfill those roles unless you are both trained and equipped to do so.
In closing, I will make a very politically incorrect (yet truthful)statement: As her husband, the Bible makes it very clear that you are her "head" (leader). It is not up to her to "allow" you to do anything. It is your job to do the right thing. It is her job to support you in doing so.

me

Pretty Good Guys, I was about to look for this for a BUMP.

I am an Ordained Christian Church Pastor currently serving as the Youth Intern at my home church right now but starting Monday I will be the Interum Pastor.

That reminds me I need to see if my Pastor wants to go shooting before he leaves for his new church.

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miklcolt45

Just don't let him take it out on any of the ones who gave him a hard time while he was there. Not that that EVER happens in churches. LOL.

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RETNAVCPO

Steve Brown is a very fine bible teacher and I like the humor he has while teaching. He, R C Sproul, and D James Kennedy are guys I listen to regularly. They are fine PCA pastor/teachers.

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p8riot

Another PCA guy checking in here, also a former Navy CPO (medically discharged, not retired).

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I always liked this one: When an armed man guardeth his home, thieves are like swiss cheese in the night air. Book of Stoner 15:223 LOL I'm not making fun, but this is the kind of quote Steve Brown loved. He was my Pastor when he was pastoring for a living. Once on a Sunday right around the noon hour, you could a bunch of watch timers sounding. He was known for going over the time limits and this was SUPERBOWL Sunday. He groused that indeed he was finishing up so the guys could go check out the game, but he'd better not hear those infernal watches anymore ...."Cause if I do, I'll pray on it and you'll get the FEVER and DIE...." I think that even showed up on the Key Life tapes he later sent out. Lot's of PCA folks gave him grief for that 'cuz PCA folks aren't known for their sense of humor. I still get the tapes although they've now been converted to CD format.

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MnemonicMonkey

I did explain that in my role as our protector and provider I need the proper tools- be it smoke detectors, fire extinguishers, deadbolts, or firearms. I think it sank in, and after a trip to Walmart with some gangsta wannabes hanging out in the parking lot, her perspective started to change. A few days later she said it was "okay" with her if I bought a gun, but she wasn't comfortable with it. I think it still leads back to the TV/movie image of handguns . . . and her mom/nurse nurturing instincts probably has something to do with it. But that's what brings balance to our marriage!

As for leading/following, I agree with it being up to me to lead, and we both understand that. My problem was more with the fact that the preacher said "and now you are one" so if I make decisions against her wishes, that would separate us. I'm called to love her as Christ loved the Church, so making decisions that would cause her great anxiety wouldn't be very loving. That was more my paradox anyway.

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Gary Brommeland

I could not disagree more. The Messiah is the "head" - he makes the rules. HE is portrayed in scripture as "The Bridegroom".

The body of Messiah (believers) is portrayed in scripture as the "Bride". It is our job to follow whatever rules that HE makes for us -to conform ourselves to HIS expectations.

Messiah did allow himself to be tortured to death on our behalf, so of course we are supposed to be willing to make any and all necessary sacrifices for our wives. However, in turn, wives are supposed to obey their husbands.

It is man's struggle to sort all of this out and to do the right thing - even if it gets him killed. It is woman's struggle to deal with it. Neither burden is an easy one, but no one ever promised it would be...

I know that these statements are not popular ones, however it is not my job to make scripture more palatable. It is my job to declare the truth - even if no one likes it...