Can you OC in states if you are not a resident? - Page 5

Al Lowe · December 29th, 2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by diesel556

+1111

If that's the case, then by extension, the entire bill of rights should not apply to aliens either.

rmodel65 · December 29th, 2008, 07:36 PM

i think all aliens should have rights imho, they are after all inaleinable rights granted by our creator. There are no stipulations for country of birth
.they should have to submit to criminal background just as we do, granted it might take them a few months to get cleared but it should happen none the less. a great many of law abiding aliens are robbed and murdered because they are defenseless.

diesel556 · December 30th, 2008, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Lowe

If that's the case, then by extension, the entire bill of rights should not apply to aliens either.

No, you misunderstood me. I was agreeing that those who are against equal treatment need to ask themselves your question. I wasn't attempting to answer it myself.

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Originally Posted by rmodel65;

i think all aliens should have rights imho, they are after all inaleinable rights granted by our creator. There are no stipulations for country of birth

I think I can safely +1 this without it being taken the wrong way

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Originally Posted by rmodel65;

they should have to submit to criminal background just as we do

When have any of us needed to submit to a criminal background check as a condition for civil rights?

JD · December 30th, 2008, 10:06 AM

Civil rights of immigrants is not the topic of this thread, if you guys want to debate the issues of The Second Amendment and Aliens, start a new thread in the Second Amendment Discussion & News section please.

Al Lowe · December 30th, 2008, 12:17 PM

moved to here.

rmodel65 · December 30th, 2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by diesel556

When have any of us needed to submit to a criminal background check as a condition for civil rights?

sorry i meant for the CCW/FFL purchases type stuff

DonSmith · January 14th, 2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by archer51

Make sure you check state and local laws first. If I'm not mistaken the city of Philly requires you have a CHP even for open carry.

yes. The state law doesn't cover First class cities, which Philly is. Don't laugh that's how they describe it in the statute.

rmarkob · January 21st, 2009, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DonSmith

yes. The state law doesn't cover First class cities, which Philly is. Don't laugh that's how they describe it in the statute.

The state law does cover "cities of the first class" (definition: 1 million or more population - only Philly qualifies) in that the PA LTCF is required for concealed and open carry. It's not Philly's law - it's the state's.

Timberline · January 21st, 2009, 02:03 AM

non-resident OC is fine in Colorado (except for the People's Republik of Denver)

RobR369 · January 26th, 2009, 09:55 PM

Heres a tough one for you all to ponder. What about someone like me for instance, living in Illinois, which is a no carry at all state. Illinois issues a firearms owner indentification card(F.O.I.D.) which allows residents to purchase or possess firearms but not conceal or open carry.Besides obtaining non-resident LTC permits to conceal carry in certain states. Does the F.O.I.D card constitute a license to open carry in lets say MI.? I would say CC no, because Illinois doesnt issue LTC permits, but according to MI. law, it states a license to possess or purchase a firearm. The F.O.I.D. card allows me to do that. So would I be legal to OC in MI.?

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January 21st, 2009, 02:03 AM	#49
Timberline Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 73	non-resident OC is fine in Colorado (except for the People's Republik of Denver)

January 26th, 2009, 09:55 PM	#50
RobR369 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 37	Heres a tough one for you all to ponder. What about someone like me for instance, living in Illinois, which is a no carry at all state. Illinois issues a firearms owner indentification card(F.O.I.D.) which allows residents to purchase or possess firearms but not conceal or open carry.Besides obtaining non-resident LTC permits to conceal carry in certain states. Does the F.O.I.D card constitute a license to open carry in lets say MI.? I would say CC no, because Illinois doesnt issue LTC permits, but according to MI. law, it states a license to possess or purchase a firearm. The F.O.I.D. card allows me to do that. So would I be legal to OC in MI.?