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Open Carry Issues & Discussions Discussion regarding open carry in those States where it is legal to do so. This is not a place to debate the virtues of open vs concealed carry.

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Old May 10th, 2009, 12:22 AM   #11
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Pardon any presumptions, but I never underestimate the thugishness of a thug. I consider concealment an extra layer of retention security - hopefully not false security. But it's an issue for me. I'd like to clarify this with my permit instructor because I understood him to say that OC is not something one should do - even though it is perfectly legal in TN.
I have heard of people and instructors giving this claim. But I do not know of a single incident related to an someone OCing having their gun taken. I guess it could happen - has happened to LEOs. If one is that concerned - go with a Black Hawk Serpa. It is highly unlikely anyone would take a gun from this holster. But I have no issues keeping it concealed - just don't do it because of mis-information.
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Old May 10th, 2009, 06:51 PM   #12
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Tennessee law does not distinguish a weapon carried openly and a weapon carried concealed.

I've open carried all over West Tennessee, including downtown Memphis, and have only had a problem at the mall in Jackson.
Ah, so you're the reason it's posted at the main entrance now huh?

I've carried there too because I went in through Sears, and it's not posted on their door. It wasn't until I went through the main entrance one day that I noticed it was a "no self defense" zone.

I guess it's legal to carry in some of the stores but not the "common" areas of the mall? I haven't been there in probably two months, ever since I saw they had it posted I decided that they didn't need my business anymore. It's a shady area after dark anyway.
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Old May 10th, 2009, 07:31 PM   #13
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Pardon any presumptions, but I never underestimate the thugishness of a thug. I consider concealment an extra layer of retention security - hopefully not false security. But it's an issue for me. I'd like to clarify this with my permit instructor because I understood him to say that OC is not something one should do - even though it is perfectly legal in TN.
Concealed carry is only a marginal extra level of security at best. At worst it puts in a false sense of security. You may think you are not underestimating thugs but if you for one second think they can't tell you are carrying concealed you are fooling yourself. Gang members and street thugs are very good at spotting people who CC.

Open carry is 100% legal in Tennessee. All of Tennessee. No matter what some small town Police Chief or Mayor may say, it is state law and local law does not supersede it.

The TN carry permit is a Handgun Carry Permit, NOT a Concealed Carry Permit. This is because the law that created the permit system specifically states that the open carrying of a hand gun is legal.

I live in Shelby County, I OC the majority of the time, perhaps 85% or more in the months where it is warm. I have never been hassled by anyone, citizen or LEO. I have had only positive comments by both.

I realize some instructors say don't do it but I disagree. The more of us open carry, the more the Sheeple get used to the fact that there are a lot of us citizens out here armed and it isn't a bad thing.

It is not uncommon here in Shelby county, at least parts of it, to see people open carrying. I know of more than 20 people other than myself in the small town I live in who open carry. And none of us, either here in this town or on Memphis or the surrounding suburbs, have ever been attacked by a thug for our gun. I have honestly never even heard of that happening. I believe it is a myth.
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Ditto what TnMike said...I OC in my hometown of Collierville and in Memphis. I also do not believe someone is going to attack me because I'm openly carrying a gun.

If I were the type of person that wanted to pick a fight with someone or take their posessions...it would not be the guy with a gun on his hip!!!
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I've seen open carry but not here, in Nashville. SA is key. If thugs targeting the gun of OC is a myth, then thugs with x-ray vision is doubtful, but I'm not putting it past 'em. I'll take any margin of safety I can get.
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I've seen open carry but not here, in Nashville. SA is key. If thugs targeting the gun of OC is a myth, then thugs with x-ray vision is doubtful, but I'm not putting it past 'em. I'll take any margin of safety I can get.
I didn't say they had X-Ray vision Pistology.

But I have talked to quite a few gang members. (143 separate street gangs confirmed operating in Memphis ) The ones I have talked to, and the police officers I have spoken to about this all pretty much confirm what I said. They are pretty good at spotting someone concealing a hand gun. And I have read interviews with incarcerated gang members where they have stated that they would pass a place they intended to rob if they know for sure that someone inside was armed.

Just passing along what I have read and heard for myself first hand.
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I live here in Desoto County, MS which might as well be part of Memphis and I agree with what TN Mike has said. I think more should carry openly. I do not pretend to be a LEO but if you carry yourself well and OC, gangbangers will definately think twice IMHO. Come June 1, I may start going out to dinner in Memphis again.

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Concealed carry is only a marginal extra level of security at best. At worst it puts in a false sense of security. You may think you are not underestimating thugs but if you for one second think they can't tell you are carrying concealed you are fooling yourself. Gang members and street thugs are very good at spotting people who CC.

Open carry is 100% legal in Tennessee. All of Tennessee. No matter what some small town Police Chief or Mayor may say, it is state law and local law does not supersede it.

The TN carry permit is a Handgun Carry Permit, NOT a Concealed Carry Permit. This is because the law that created the permit system specifically states that the open carrying of a hand gun is legal.

I live in Shelby County, I OC the majority of the time, perhaps 85% or more in the months where it is warm. I have never been hassled by anyone, citizen or LEO. I have had only positive comments by both.

I realize some instructors say don't do it but I disagree. The more of us open carry, the more the Sheeple get used to the fact that there are a lot of us citizens out here armed and it isn't a bad thing.

It is not uncommon here in Shelby county, at least parts of it, to see people open carrying. I know of more than 20 people other than myself in the small town I live in who open carry. And none of us, either here in this town or on Memphis or the surrounding suburbs, have ever been attacked by a thug for our gun. I have honestly never even heard of that happening. I believe it is a myth.
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I have to agree with TN mike as well. I live in Sevierville.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 11:30 PM   #19
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Ah, so you're the reason it's posted at the main entrance now huh?

I've carried there too because I went in through Sears, and it's not posted on their door. It wasn't until I went through the main entrance one day that I noticed it was a "no self defense" zone.

I guess it's legal to carry in some of the stores but not the "common" areas of the mall? I haven't been there in probably two months, ever since I saw they had it posted I decided that they didn't need my business anymore. It's a shady area after dark anyway.
Yes, sir. I am the one that did it. Here is the story: Old Hickory Mall, Jackson, West Tennessee Every time you see that sign, think of me.

The signs mean nothing. You can walk into Sears and into the mall without seeing a sign. The sign, while the correct one, has no legal bearing per the law as it is not posted at all entrances.
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Now and then I'll see someone OC'ing in Atoka, then again there aren't a whole lot of folks here or places to see people out and about. Kroger, Autozone, Sonic, the Movie Theater......according to the Commercial Appeal a very high percentage of this little town has a permit. I've seen a couple in Millington at Walmart and Lowes.
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