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If I was asked to leave and did not pay the bill, I would still tip the server on what the bill should have been. I have never stiffed a server on a tip but one time I have server who barely did their job but the bus boy was on point. I mean as the glasses got empty he was there,bread basket was there. So when it came time to pay the bill I tipped the waitress 16% in front of the bussboy. She thanked me and before she walked away. I tipped the busboy double over the waitress. The waitress was pissed and the bussboy was a happy camper.

packinnova

Almost forgot...the upside. Out of the entire time I was in that whole Reston Town Center area, that restaurant was the ONLY problem I had. At any given time in the evenings that whole place is PACKED because of all the food choices, live bands etc... I actually walked in front of a group of 5 or 6 local LEO's and not one of them made any issue over it. Nevermind the THOUSANDS of people I was mingling with. Was just a little surprising that that one little restaurant decided to make a big deal out of it.

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I'd have to know more about the museum, but it seemed to me that's a federal facility, and it's on the grounds of a common carrier airport, right?

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TucAzRider

HA HA HA... I saw that coming,. And I totally agree with this,. I'm a good tipper when it comes to everything coming together,. If I get food that is cooked bad, and I give a good tip nothing gets done about it,. But if I leave my food mostly uneaten and not much tip,. I'm sure they will figure it out and get another cook.. The Tip is the ONE things we can control.. We order food, we have to pay it,.. But I don't have to pay the tip,.. I feel bad for people that serve and gets the short end of the tip,. But!!!! .... If they are doing a good job and not getting tips, they need to find somewhere else to work,. Odds are it isn't all coming together (food, service, additude)

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miklcolt45

Actually, not even close on the tip issue.
All 4 of my children have worked as servers in the food industry at one time or another. 3 of the 4 are now professionals in other areas, and the 4th is still a server.

She came home from work a few nights ago, very upset.
She had 12 tables. 5 of them did not tip her because the food came out wrong. It was ordered properly, the kitchen screwed it up. Her particular restaurant has had problems with this before. She tells management. Nothing is done.

If you have a problem with the server, tell the server, then management if you think it is necessary.
If you have a problem with the food, tell the server, then management. More than likely you will get something comped, it won't hurt the server if they did not cause the problem. And management will know what the real issue is. I have never had issues with how food was cooked, or how long it took, that management did not do something to make up for the problem.

Establishments like restaurants cannot fix the issue if they don't know what it is. I suggest that the management be told in a courteous, but firm, manner. And things will almost always be rectified.

Finally, go out and see how easy it is to find other jobs in this economy. Don't like the restaurant and their service? Tell the management and don't go back. But, don't dump on a server who is working his/her butt off and can't control management or the kitchen help.

My way more than $.02.

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MadMac

My kids worked as servers for a couple years as well. I feel your pain, but the server is the "face" of a restuarant or bar. If I get lousy food, slow service, or a screwed up order, I can't easily go back and chew on the cook, and asking for the front-of-house is often time-consuming and non-productive.

I eat out all the time and normally tip 20% for regular (not super) service. If my stuff is egregiously wrong, sadly, the server gets a lousy (or no) tip. Life isn't fair, but it isn't my job to go deep into the restaurant's personnel department to let them know they suck.

The sever has to keep an eye out for me in the kitchen and help ensure the order is timely and accurate. I'm not busting through the swinging doors for a finger-pointing session with the entire staff. I vote with my wallet.

retsupt99

You only have two choices, stay concealed (which you might not be able to do by law), or...leave and take your money with you. I'd let the business know that you won't be back.
I agree with the other posters, don't take it out on the servers as they are already being punished (they work for peanuts).

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heylin

The servers should have known the policy, basically becuase they didnt say anything up front your night out was ruined and in my opinion you had every right to pay the bill and leave (no tips).

You were not causing any issues, abiding by your state law and this manager decides to give you a hard time despite sitting on a gold mine of 18-20 paying customers.

Obviously his business is doing so well he didnt need your custom, recession ? not at the Market Bar and Grill obviously.

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tnstr8shooter

Here's another take on the tipping issue. If I'm the patron in this situation, I don't tip. The manager asked me to leave, so it's up to the waiter to have the manager take my sales off his tally. He's out the time it took to wait on me, but at least he won't have to pay tipshare and taxes on sales that didn't materialize. I hate he wasted his time, but I agree with the other posters that he should have known the policy. If he didn't know it before he won't forget it now.

falcon1

In Tennessee, if one is asked to leave (of course, we won't know if we can carry legally in on-the-site-consumption restaurants for a few more days yet), delaying compliance for any reason might be the foundation of a criminal-trespass charge.

I hate it for the server; but, in this instance, I must agree that the server should have known the policy and should have had the manager address the situation immediately before any orders were taken. If the manager flew by the seat of his pants, well...if I am asked to leave a place on business, I will comply immediately--Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

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