News Story About Open Carry - Page 3

45XDCCW · July 4th, 2009, 02:29 AM

Great Idea I think! wish we had open carry in AR :(

sirdarksoul · July 4th, 2009, 08:50 AM

why do people in general and the media in specific commonly use the term "toting" and 'packin' to describe what is actually more properly 'carry' of a firearm?

In my opinion it's a lame attempt by the media, even in an otherwise positive piece, to evoke images of the wild west and prohibition era gangsters. We all heard as children (well, those of my age group and older) about totin' guns on shows like Gunsmoke and Bonanza. In the old detective movies set in the 30s some bad guy was always packin' heat. The use of these words and the mental images they conjure are indicators of a subliminal anti-gun spin.

TN_Mike · July 4th, 2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by marengofire

Also if you were in a gas station and someone decided to do a robbery while you are in there,(who do you think they would take out first.)

Please. Criminals have tried to rob convenience stores while uniformed armed police officers were waiting in line at the register.

Your typical criminal isn't the smartest guy in the crowd and is scared as hell when they are about to commit a crime. Tunnel vision is a normal by product.

That was a good report. I'd love to see more of them and I'd love to see many more open carry events like that all around the country!

SelfDefense · July 4th, 2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TN_Mike

Your typical criminal isn't the smartest guy in the crowd

I keep reading how brilliant these criminals are. How we can be sure they will call police if you draw your weaopn to thwart an attack. First one who calls wins, irrespective of the facts. Crafty devils, these criminals.

Certainly they can spot the most dangerous threat in the room, no? Isn't that something we are trained to notice? Why should we let our guard down an assume those law breakers haven't trained and are not prepared?

jfl · July 4th, 2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by F350

marengofire-

No one can find an actual account of this ever happening; just as likely you are in a gas station and someone decided to do a robbery while you are in there open carrying and they decided either not to or went some place else.

I am in full agreement !!!

I have seen that excuse many times, never documented.

MP45Man · July 4th, 2009, 11:18 PM

I was looking at this article and I noticed a link that said Steve McNair was shot in the head. Wow...anytime, anywhere, anyone!

paramedic70002 · July 5th, 2009, 11:44 AM

Based on my study of TV reality shows, it seems most armed robberies occur while the thief is standing at the counter. Coming in second is the rapid assault.

I believe that the great majority of perps are going to completely overlook an armed citizen. Most look only for an empty store, don't even bother 'flooring' other customers.

TN_Mike · July 5th, 2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SelfDefense

Certainly they can spot the most dangerous threat in the room, no? Isn't that something we are trained to notice? Why should we let our guard down an assume those law breakers haven't trained and are not prepared?

Some times they can, some times they can't. If they are casing the place and really paying attention then I would think they would spot an OC person. If they are just rushing in to rob, then no. If they are walking in scared and shaky, then I don't think they will notice either.

Like I said, I have read reports where criminals tried to rob places while uniformed police officers were standing right at the register.

As for training, that is an interesting question. Some do go to the range and "practice" shooting their guns. I have worked at indoor ranges and seen this. But, it mainly consists of them showing off for their buddies by shooting fast (not accurately) and shooting sideways "gangsta" style. I always go a chuckle out of seeing their targets after they were done. They might have fired 50 rounds and hit the paper 7 times. It wasn't about accurate and patient fire. It was about shooting as fast as they could and looking cool. That is what makes them a man in their minds.

DaveH · July 5th, 2009, 03:14 PM

Good job -- Citizens.

FWIIW -- more organizations should do something like this.

See:
YouTube - OpenCarry.Org Litter Pick-Up Day

wolfshead · July 5th, 2009, 05:35 PM

Cashioli did a great thing by organizing this. I can't beleive his neighbour called the cops on him for open carrying. Sheesh!

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July 5th, 2009, 11:44 AM	#27
paramedic70002 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Franklin, VA Posts: 2,644	Based on my study of TV reality shows, it seems most armed robberies occur while the thief is standing at the counter. Coming in second is the rapid assault. I believe that the great majority of perps are going to completely overlook an armed citizen. Most look only for an empty store, don't even bother 'flooring' other customers. __________________ Guns Save Lives. Paramedics Save Lives. But... Paramedics With Guns Scare People!

July 5th, 2009, 03:14 PM	#29
DaveH VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SW Virginia Posts: 2,323	Good job -- Citizens. FWIIW -- more organizations should do something like this. See: YouTube - OpenCarry.Org Litter Pick-Up Day __________________ Μολὼν λαβέ I'm just one root in a grassroots organization. No one should assume that I speak for the VCDL BTW -- I am neither a lawyer, nor I do not play one on television or on the Internet. I hope no one assumes that I am giving legal advice Veni, Vidi, Velcro

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July 4th, 2009, 08:50 AM	#22
sirdarksoul Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NW Georgia Posts: 86	why do people in general and the media in specific commonly use the term "toting" and 'packin' to describe what is actually more properly 'carry' of a firearm? In my opinion it's a lame attempt by the media, even in an otherwise positive piece, to evoke images of the wild west and prohibition era gangsters. We all heard as children (well, those of my age group and older) about totin' guns on shows like Gunsmoke and Bonanza. In the old detective movies set in the 30s some bad guy was always packin' heat. The use of these words and the mental images they conjure are indicators of a subliminal anti-gun spin.

July 4th, 2009, 11:18 PM	#26
MP45Man Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: State of Guns and Religion Posts: 829	I was looking at this article and I noticed a link that said Steve McNair was shot in the head. Wow...anytime, anywhere, anyone!