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Open Carry Issues & Discussions Discussion regarding open carry in those States where it is legal to do so. This is not a place to debate the virtues of open vs concealed carry.

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Old July 21st, 2009, 09:55 PM   #11
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It's either that or I start to use the ATM or use the night drop box... but I do not think I should need to change my business process becuase of a sheep bank manager.

In addition, she also tapped me inches above my Beretta. It could have ended a lot differently if I felt she was reaching for it to remove it from my holster.
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Old July 21st, 2009, 10:41 PM   #12
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Sorry that happened to you, but nicely done by heading her off and going straight to the PD. I'm impressed. I never would have thought of that.

You stayed calm, cool, and collected the whole time, both at the bank and the PD, that speaks volumes for how you represent ALL of us who carry, and show that we are not the "crazy gun nuts" the extreme sheep think we are. Thank you for that.

I would do what I did with Best Buy and what Pro2A did with Lowes, and countless others here did with other businesses. Call corporate HQ, speak to a supervisor, and get it straightened out. MAKE SURE they have something coming down the chain of command to the lady who kicked you out of the bank, and then go back again to speak with her, making sure everyone's ducks are in a row.

Then demand a 100" flat screen high-def apology television. ;)
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On a similar note, we have legal OC here in banks, but not CC. I have been in my bank OCing I dunno how many times since April. Yesterday, I mentioned to one of the tellers (we're all very friendly here, I adopted a dog to the branch manager, everyone knows everyone's kids' first names...small town, etc.) about my upcoming NRA instructor training, and she said "oh, I didn't realize you were serious when you said you went shooting. You don't seem like a violent person." We'll chat about that later, but anyhow, she asked about where I keep my gun, and I pointed to my hip.

She freaked out and goes "Oh my! Can you DO that? Can you walk around like that? Are you allowed to be in here like that?" The manager beat me to it and explained the OC/CC law about banks here, trying hard the whole time not to laugh at her. She said "if it were anyone but you, Bunny, I would have totally freaked out! But actually, it seems pretty safe with you in here, now that I think about it." Hey, she may be coming around!

Then she said "why did you bring that in here today?" I told her I always have it on me. She goes "Oh, that was your GUN? I thought it was your CELL PHONE!"

Yes, my tactical 9mm cell phone! LOL.

Point is, I think a lot of bank employees may be very ignorant of the laws indeed, and just need to be educated. I'm sorry this one was so rude instead of comical though. Call HQ and take care of it.
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Old July 21st, 2009, 10:45 PM   #13
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Doesn't sound to me as though the bank or the staffer had a no-guns policy. Sounds to me, though, like the person mistakenly believed you were committing a crime by daring to carry in a bank, any bank.
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Old July 21st, 2009, 10:57 PM   #14
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Thanks for the kind words. I figured it was the best course of action. Mostly, I did not want to the cops showing up at my door later responding to the MWAG call earlier. Last thing I want is to loose my license to carry.

I suppose I should simply better conceal...but that negates the reason I carry. My Beretta is a deterrent. I don't want to be hastled by some punk in the parking lot while carrying a deposit to the bank.

The chief suggested a either conceal it better or simply secure it in my vehicle. I'm drafting a letter to TD Bank corporate tomorrow but feel it will probably be lost and will receive a general customer service response.

In the short term, I have to return to that branch for deposits. We will consider switching banks if we do not receive a satisfactory response.

I wish she had not made such a big deal about it. Even the teller I was working with whispered "I'm sorry" a couple of times... just out of earshot of her boss.

Your best buy story was enlightening. I hope I have similiar success.
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Old July 21st, 2009, 11:23 PM   #15
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LOL i love storys likethis i hope that you get it worked out. I loe how people freak out of such a small thing. i wasin wells fargo a few days ago and did not have an issue at all. as a matter of fact everytime i OC i have not had a problem. I did get alook the other day in a busy gas station, but who cares they will get over it and have probably allready forgotten about it.
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The East is so different from the West. Before I had a vault, I used to keep several class III guns in a bank safety deposit box. I'd go get them when I wanted to shoot and then take them back. Bank personnel got to know me so well, that upon seeing me they would say "did you come for your guns"? or "going shooting today"? Never had a single complaint. One teller was heartbroken when on my last withdrawal I announced I had bought a safe. "Come back and see us anyway" she said. Yup, area makes a difference.
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One thing I noticed is that you seemed to be in condition white,she was able to walk up behind you and had she been an armed robber etc.could have very possibly disarmed you,A gun doesn't do you much good if somebody gets the drop on you
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The bank manager, Cecile Chase, tapped me on my back. She yelled out that I was not allowed to carry a gun into the bank. She also barked out that I was breaking federal law because (brining a gun into the bank).
She blew it when she invented that BS line about you violating Federal law. To me, inventing non-existent laws casts strong doubt upon her ability to manage even a small-town branch bank.
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If she was so worried about you having a gun why did she sneak up behind you and tap you on the shoulder.
That's a frequent element in these idiotic situations.

"I'm afraid of people with guns!"

"So then that's why you loudly and rudely rebuke them in public?"

These people are either liars, fools or both. I vote for the latter.
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