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| Open Carry Issues & Discussions Discussion regarding open carry in those States where it is legal to do so. This is not a place to debate the virtues of open vs concealed carry. |
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The problem with this is, while you are trying to convert them, they are trying to convert you. We are supposed to appease them, but what about us. Believe me, if they would leave me alone, I would have no reason to talk to them. We ALL have rights, not just the anti-gun crowd. So when do we say, enough is enough and quit kissing their posteriors?
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Today right now this moment. But I think we need to draw a very clear line between assertive and aggressive. By its very nature an aggressive posture or aggressive conduct validates the volunteer victims fears. Our polite gentlemanly & lady like conduct in the face of a rabid raving anti does far more for our cause than all the chest pounding soap box rants in the world. Something I often have to remind myself of when what I really want to do it put some arrogant self righteous moron in their place.
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Abort the Obamanation not the Constitution Those who would, deny, require permit, license, certification, or authorization for me to bear arms are as dangerous & evil as those who would molest, abuse, assault, rape or murder my family |
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Reasonably frequently, I find myself faced with someone who has made an innocuous little comment about the danger of guns, or the silliness of the gun culture, or wondering out-loud about why so many people feel they need to be armed. Guns are getting a lot of play, in the media, and a lot of sheep are running around with too much propaganda being shoved into every orifice. I, too, find it far more powerful to state the obvious, in simple terms, in a very non-confrontational manner. For example, imagine someone in a conversation suggests guns are bad. Going off about how much good they do, or running down some statistics can likely steel the person's resolve to not hear what you're saying. Whereas, a simple quip might work twice as well, such as: "Guns are bad? Not for a victim being attacked, they aren't." Letting that lay there in the open for a moment can do quite a bit of good. It's simple and clear, it's victim focused, it is truthful. And, it can be backed up by reading any edition of any newspaper from any metropolitan city in the country ... and the other person knows it. There is crime enough to choke a mule, daily, and the simple perspective of defending against attack with pixie dust versus something a bit more viable goes a long way, with doubters. They're forced to be put into the shoes of the attacked, imagining what they would do if left with nothing but hopeful thinking. Doesn't work every time. But I've turned on the "light bulb" for a dozen folks, in this way, when I'm certain they would have ceased listening if I had spewed a litany of statistics and references to Kleck and others.
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Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it. ![]() Thoughts: Justifiable self defense. Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims? Deal with evil through strength. Affirm the good in Man through trust. NRA. GOA. OFF.
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While I don't OC presently, I'm working toward doing so occasionally.
When I do I'll do my best to not piss sheep off, but to educate them. If they don't buy my message, that's fine, at least it was one more attempt to "evangelize". By the way, rack of lamb is my favorite dish, so I have a hard time saying anything disparaging about genuine sheep... ![]()
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![]() With any good herd the sheepdog gains the trust of the herd or they can not protect it and may be removed from their job as a sheepdog...it applies to us as well
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Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws... serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man - Cesare Beccaria |
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Lots of good comments here. I think JD said it best.
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