Gun Bearer Has Pointed Discussion With Police Officer - Page 12

rmodel65 · October 21st, 2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagleks

I think the guy is a total moron.... at an abortion clinic, where police are there, not harrassing but following up on a trespassing complaint. The guy wanted to get into a confrontation with the Police. The question on age by the LEO, was correct... he was determining if the guy was old enough to carry a gun. A legtimate question.

I was stopping by a car dealer various times to wheel and deal on a car, and across the street..... was an abortion clinic and protestors. The ANTI-abortion folks were confrontational, aggressive to say the least, and in the middle of me for parking my car there (legally parked on the street by the car dealer). I had 2 kids with me and they got extremely nasty about "moving my car" ...... to the point (1) I felt definitely threatened , and (2) it is was waaaay out line let alone with kids there , (3) made me wonder who they think they are.

I finally told tell them what I thought of them... in no uncertain terms.......that I was not moving the car, and I called the police telling them my well-being was being threatened, accosted, etc.

With the violence that has occurred related to abortion clinics, etc.... I think any LEO would be skeptical of anyone there with a gun....

he can ask anything he wants but you dont have to respond... that pesky 4th/5th amendment things you know..

with the violence that has occurred by using guns anytime you carry i should be skeptical

i say we add a 2th amendment exception to the 4th amendment so when im in a big city i can be detained by every single officer that sees me all day long even if i only make it 4 blocks in 8 hours :sarcasm off:

jbum · October 21st, 2009, 10:21 PM

Yeah that 4th and 5th are real boogers.

Good call rmodel65!!!!

Nova · October 21st, 2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rmodel65

he can ask anything he wants but you dont have to respond... that pesky 4th/5th amendment things you know..

The officer needs to have reasonable suspicion that you are underage and, therefore, cannot possess a handgun. Much like he could suspect that you are underage and under the influence.

They have means of figuring it out if you use your right to remain silent. The 5th amendment is not a get-out-of-jail free card. It just means that you don't have to incriminate yourself. You still have to identify yourself.

When I was in college, I was walking through frat row drinking a root beer around 10pm. LEO walks up to me and checks the can, sniffs around. He can do that - its reasonable suspicion. You're near the frats, carrying a metallic can and you look underage. It's not rocket science.

BuckeyeEric · October 21st, 2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jbum

Yeah that 4th and 5th are real boogers.

Good call rmodel65!!!!

Him and that dam "sarcasm switch"

rmodel65 · October 22nd, 2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nova

The officer needs to have reasonable suspicion that you are underage and, therefore, cannot possess a handgun. Much like he could suspect that you are underage and under the influence.

not to ask questions as long as its consensual....

They have means of figuring it out if you use your right to remain silent. The 5th amendment is not a get-out-of-jail free card. It just means that you don't have to incriminate yourself. You still have to identify yourself.

not in GA to my knowledge....

When I was in college, I was walking through frat row drinking a root beer around 10pm. LEO walks up to me and checks the can, sniffs around. He can do that - its reasonable suspicion. You're near the frats, carrying a metallic can and you look underage. It's not rocket science.

do you have a stop and id statute in VA?

BuckeyeEric · October 23rd, 2009, 05:55 PM

Here we go!

HotGuns · October 23rd, 2009, 05:56 PM

We'd better not.

This thread is about the actions of the Cop and the Open Carrier, not abortion.

Lets not go there.

Keep it on topic.

October 21st, 2009, 10:21 PM	#112
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October 23rd, 2009, 05:55 PM	#116
BuckeyeEric Ex Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 266	Here we go! Last edited by QKShooter; October 23rd, 2009 at 08:47 PM.. Reason: Quote Is A DC Rule Violation

October 23rd, 2009, 05:56 PM	#117
HotGuns Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,609	We'd better not. This thread is about the actions of the Cop and the Open Carrier, not abortion. Lets not go there. Keep it on topic. __________________ AR. CHL Instr. To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson

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