LaserMax - I had to buy one.......... - Page 2

CLASS3NH · June 2nd, 2005, 11:56 AM

Psssssttt QK??? I know where there's a few more of those Beretta 92F's for sale.....even in the 92F Compact version......350.00 to 375.00...... there are a few of the 92F Compact W/O the Laser for 275.00 to 300.00

HotGuns · July 12th, 2005, 01:14 AM

I got mine from the Sherrif Dept. to put on my Glock 21. It was free for me so I cant complain about the cost.

Im not crazyt about the switch as its not a real positive stop. Go too far and it goes off... get it close to that and shooting it might make it go off.

Other than that...Its dead on the money at 25 yards. Just to check out the capabilitys of it I shot if from every postion know to man and even invented a few...and all of the shots wen into a standard bullsyeye target in the x ring or the 10.

It could be useful for shooting from cover. I got behind a sizable oak tree and stuck out my right arm, using only the laser as a guide. Put several shots right on the X from 20 yards. I tired it from my driveway using the wheel of my truck as cover and shooting under the truck with exellent results.

The pulsating laser makes it easier for the eye to pick it up...buts is still nearly impossible to see in bright sunlight as just about any laser is.

In the dark its hard to beat. I suspect that the presence of a laser dot on someones heart or prized family jewels might have some sort of effect on ones outlook on life all of a sudden.

The major gripe with the LaserMax seems to be with the on/off switch. I may look into fabricating a replacement that is more positive using perhaps some sort of grooved rod with O rings or something along that line.

QKShooter · July 12th, 2005, 01:54 AM

DITTO
Everything you said.
I have big fingers & the GLOCK switch is a little tough for me to operate.
It's so small but, any bigger & I could see the laser turning itself on "in holster"
There is a "service pak" available from LaserMax that includes a new internal switch plate & that might help make yours more positive.
Thanks for your addition to this thread.:unitedsta

TwoRavens · July 12th, 2005, 05:28 PM

A friend of mine works for CT, and I have CTs on my 1911 cmdr, the new style with the switch under the ring finger, same as the revo.

CT have some up with new version for Glocks that fits over part of the frame

They will be shipping at the end of the year. I have not seen one yet, but have heard they change the grip angle slightly so it is more like a 1911...

Re Lasers in general...(for me, ymmv)
Faster from low ready to first shot (since you just flick the laser up), about .1 to .2 seconds faster.
Slower from the holster with targets at 7 yards versus flash sight; about .1 to .2 slower.

Great for weird positions/weak hand/disabled limbs/eye problems (kind of like a good hooker

)

Good for tracking moving targets, though I need to more work in this area.

As well as possible deterrence value; they are good for "holding a" BG, e.g. Once BG is face down on the ground, with head turned to side, you put the dot six inches in front of his face and say "See the red dot? Move and it goes on your head!"

For team shooting they make excellent target designators to avoid things like this:
"See the guy with the gun over there by the tree?"
"Which tree?"
"The Douglas Fir between the Oak and the Alder"
<Sounds of incoming rounds...>
"Arrghhh"
"****"
....

BTW, the laser flashing feature was not done to improve visibility, but to extend battery life, since they have use those tiny cells, but CT has the whole grip to store a battery in.

P95Carry · July 12th, 2005, 05:43 PM

I am with Phill re CT's - constant beam and to me totally invaluable.

(Apart from driving cats nuts when they chase the dot - from unloaded gun!)

July 12th, 2005, 01:54 AM	#13
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 19,958	HotGuns DITTO Everything you said. I have big fingers & the GLOCK switch is a little tough for me to operate. It's so small but, any bigger & I could see the laser turning itself on "in holster" There is a "service pak" available from LaserMax that includes a new internal switch plate & that might help make yours more positive. Thanks for your addition to this thread.:unitedsta __________________

July 12th, 2005, 05:28 PM	#14
TwoRavens Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 115	A friend of mine works for CT, and I have CTs on my 1911 cmdr, the new style with the switch under the ring finger, same as the revo. CT have some up with new version for Glocks that fits over part of the frame They will be shipping at the end of the year. I have not seen one yet, but have heard they change the grip angle slightly so it is more like a 1911... Re Lasers in general...(for me, ymmv) Faster from low ready to first shot (since you just flick the laser up), about .1 to .2 seconds faster. Slower from the holster with targets at 7 yards versus flash sight; about .1 to .2 slower. Great for weird positions/weak hand/disabled limbs/eye problems (kind of like a good hooker ) Good for tracking moving targets, though I need to more work in this area. As well as possible deterrence value; they are good for "holding a" BG, e.g. Once BG is face down on the ground, with head turned to side, you put the dot six inches in front of his face and say "See the red dot? Move and it goes on your head!" For team shooting they make excellent target designators to avoid things like this: "See the guy with the gun over there by the tree?" "Which tree?" "The Douglas Fir between the Oak and the Alder" <Sounds of incoming rounds...> "Arrghhh" "**" .... BTW, the laser flashing feature was not done to improve visibility, but to extend battery life, since they have use those tiny cells, but CT has the whole grip to store a battery in. __________________ /******* Phill **********/ "Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate" William of Ockham (ca. 1285-1349)

July 12th, 2005, 05:43 PM	#15
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	I am with Phill re CT's - constant beam and to me totally invaluable. (Apart from driving cats nuts when they chase the dot - from unloaded gun!) __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

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June 2nd, 2005, 11:56 AM	#11
CLASS3NH VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern New Hampshire Posts: 2,565	Psssssttt QK??? I know where there's a few more of those Beretta 92F's for sale.....even in the 92F Compact version......350.00 to 375.00...... there are a few of the 92F Compact W/O the Laser for 275.00 to 300.00

July 12th, 2005, 01:14 AM	#12
HotGuns Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,154	I got mine from the Sherrif Dept. to put on my Glock 21. It was free for me so I cant complain about the cost. Im not crazyt about the switch as its not a real positive stop. Go too far and it goes off... get it close to that and shooting it might make it go off. Other than that...Its dead on the money at 25 yards. Just to check out the capabilitys of it I shot if from every postion know to man and even invented a few...and all of the shots wen into a standard bullsyeye target in the x ring or the 10. It could be useful for shooting from cover. I got behind a sizable oak tree and stuck out my right arm, using only the laser as a guide. Put several shots right on the X from 20 yards. I tired it from my driveway using the wheel of my truck as cover and shooting under the truck with exellent results. The pulsating laser makes it easier for the eye to pick it up...buts is still nearly impossible to see in bright sunlight as just about any laser is. In the dark its hard to beat. I suspect that the presence of a laser dot on someones heart or prized family jewels might have some sort of effect on ones outlook on life all of a sudden. The major gripe with the LaserMax seems to be with the on/off switch. I may look into fabricating a replacement that is more positive using perhaps some sort of grooved rod with O rings or something along that line.