aus71383

Your neighbors would still hear the noise...bullets hitting things isn't very quiet. JMO

Austin

Der Alte

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matiki

Just close enough for gun fire to alarm... gotcha.

As another poster said, the bullet strikes can be quite loud as well. When I lived outside the city I used to shoot these in an older s/a revolver. Very effective with less hassle, if that's something you're interested in.

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ibez

On "some board" I read , all you have to do is send one copy to the CLEO, doesn't matter if he signs it or not, you're good to go as long as its LEGAL in the county/STATE
Its basically "INFORMING" him, and you don't need his "approval"

does all CLEO have to "authorize" before you purchase, or just be "informed" ?

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MattLarson

I think CLEO sign-off is required for full auto. Not sure about suppressors.

However, you can also establish a Trust, and have the Trust "own" the NFA items, with no CLEO signature required. Or so I have read.

Matt

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HotGuns

Everything that you do is in duplicate. They (ATF) keep one copy and the other copy they send back to you. That form has a stamp affixed to it in the upper right hand corner. The form and the stamp itself is the "Tax Stamp" and it must go anywhere you take the suppressor.

Unless you have have formed a "Trust" you must get the CLEO to sign it. In some areas this is a problem because some of them refuse to sign it if they are antigun. In these areas, the only way to get the stamp is by forming the Trust, once you do that, then the CLEO signature is not required.

The advantage of the Trust is that you don't need CLEO approval, its is much quicker and once your fingerprints are on file, you don't need to send them every time you apply.

Also, be advised that this subject has much misinformation, rumors and lies passed out as information on various boards. Because of that, I would be extremely careful of ANY information that I got from the net. The best thing one can do is go to the ATF website and get real information, "straight from the horses mouth". Their website will answer most commonly asked questions and if in doubt you can call and ask. Contrary to popular belief, most of them are very professional and helpful. They just want you to do it right.

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ibez

Thanks guys

I was reading Arizona gun list - How to purchase National Firearms Act (NFA) weapons.
and I am not sure about doing a Trust. - M4Carbine.net Forums ( thread contains many links to info and the AFT site)

some steps one can take by themself in creating a trust before consulting a lawyer, may save a lil of the lawyers fee.

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Pro2A

It's 50 yards here.

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Rob99VMI04

Packin,
Just talked to a buddy of mine. He said Atlanta is back up to 45-60 Days

I wonder if this has anything to do with the new Senator Kennedy Friend who just got appointed head of BATFE btw ts 2008 ATF you need another letter!!!!

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Rob72

Pro, if you have a Ruger MkII, I can direct you to some mods that will let you reliably shoot CBs or Aguila SSS, no can needed. Honestly, I would do a higher-end airsoft before I got in the NFA market, right now.