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Old January 20th, 2008, 03:37 AM   #11
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You know, I read this forum and I feel real stupid.

Let's take this point by point.

The MSU campus is very safe at night.
Great. Nothing is going to happen.

I'd suggest that she walk back to the residential colleges with someone from her class.
The only reason I can think of to do this is in case she gets bored. That way she can talk with someone. You know, the MSU campus is safe and therefore nothing is going to happen, so the friend must only be there to keep her company.

If it's late and she's alone, she can call Public Safety and they'll send someone to escort her to wherever she needs to go.
Wait. The MSU campus is safe, so why would she even have to do this? I am confused. Does she need some one to talk to in case she gets bored? No wait. She may get lost at night and need some one to direct her. Ya. That is it.


The service is called Racer Patrol and the purpose is to escort students across campus after dark. It's a great service, especially if you have to park at the stadium.
Boy, this is getting better all the time. He has already assured us that the MSU campus is safe, so why would a student need an escort? In fact, why is the service even there if the campus is safe. Seems like a waste of tuition dollars to have in place a program no one is ever going to need.

OK, my brain is really in a tizzy. Perhaps someone smarter than me can explain all this.
I like the way you broke this down....The first statement of the campus being safe throws off all other logic.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 03:40 AM   #12
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*sigh* Kinda sad that these people apply this logic to only certain situations:
Ex: the campus is relatively safe (probably true), but to be on the safe side there are escort services available.

Ok, I understand the logic there and agree with it.

But then they aren't willing to apply that same logic to something like carrying concealed in your everyday life (or on campus). For a lot of us we probably live in areas that are "relatively" safe, not considered ghetto, but we choose to carry because we want to be able to protect ourselves should the need arise and you never know when or where something might go down, even in "safe" areas.

So I'm only allowed to protect myself in certain areas, to varying degrees?
Remember this student is only 18, not old enough to carry. My point in the post was the " Campus is safe" but yet needs escorts and the fact that the student couldn't even carry pepper spray.
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Not old enough to carry concealed with a permit perhaps,but some states only require you to be 18 to open carry.
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Old January 21st, 2008, 01:31 AM   #14
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Not old enough to carry concealed with a permit perhaps,but some states only require you to be 18 to open carry.
Good point.
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Old January 21st, 2008, 02:13 PM   #15
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Good point.
Which,unfortunately we both know OC would be a no-no on campus that doesn't allow CC
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I have some experience with Murray State (I work there) and I have to say, as university campuses go, it's probably one of the safest out there.

We have our share of moonbats, primarily among the faculty. Our president, although a likable guy, is a transplant from the Peoples Republic of Illinois so he's pretty out there. The director of Public Safety who prefers to be called the Murray State "Chief of Police" (really) is wrapped a little tight. The staff is much more rational and sane.

Kentucky law is good. No criminal penalties for carrying. Employees face termination and students face expulsion. That said, hey, you know the old saying... concealed is concealed.

Some of our TV production students created and produced a series that aired on the university TV. It was called "Racer Patrol" and it was a pretty hilarious spoof. Those students have long graduated but the series will be long remembered.
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Some of our TV production students created and produced a series that aired on the university TV. It was called "Racer Patrol" and it was a pretty hilarious spoof. Those students have long graduated but the series will be long remembered.
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Is it on You Tube?
I just realized when this thread popped back up that I never answered you. I searched around and couldn't find anything. They were 30 min programs so I didn't expect to find them.
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