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Old March 20th, 2008, 10:35 PM   #11
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Modular Safes

If you want a modular safe which you can put together & break down if you move you might find these interesting.

I'm thinking about getting one of the Zanotti Armor safes. I live in an old apartment building in NYC circa 1928 construction. The ZAI safe weighs 350lbs empty. It will fit perfectly in one of my closets but I'm worried about the weight. The building is rated at 40psf. I believe that one of the closet walls is a load bearing wall.

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Old April 7th, 2008, 03:55 AM   #12
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I just finished a long pondering and researching the same issue. This is what I found and is just my opinion-
I closely checked Cannon, Browning, Liberty, Fort Knox, Sentry, Heritage, and American Security (AmSec). My main concerns were fire protection, security, and price/value. I also wanted to buy the biggest safe I could fit into my home.

By FAR the best, most impressive safe I came across was the AmSec. Second best was the Heritage. The door on both of these safes are solid steel plates, not layered, thinner gauge steel. Very vault like. Just knocking on the door is a deterrent for the standard thief. No fire axe will get through that. (of course, a torch will slice it like butter, but if that is what your dealing with, I would not classify them as a standard thief anyway) AmSec also has a special concrete fire mix that makes even side attacks difficult. Great interior for what I needed. I would say this is the top of the line IMHO. Both Amsec and Heritage beat safes from Browning, Liberty, Cannon et al hands down. In both material quality and overall price/value. Unfortunately, I had to purchase my second choice- the Heritage Tradition model. But it was also not the size I wanted.

What stopped me from my first choices? Size and moving dilemma because of the weight and location. Where I purchased the safe, the movers had a 900 lbs. limit for in house delivery and 66 inches in height. For the size I wanted, the AmSec exceeded the movers weight capability and I also had to limit the size of the Heritage for height limit reasons. No way I would attempt to move the safe from my driveway into my house. (That is just me though and I was influenced by my GF. She is usually right about these things.) As for size, the space I had in my office closet was bigger than my hallway or doors would allow. Make sure you take that into consideration and measure well. I was very surprised what a tape measure will tell you that your eyes don't.

My safe is being built and should be here in about 3-4 weeks. It's 30x66x25. Custom interior and color combo. Just like a custom holster, worth the wait.
Good luck with whatever you choose. Any safe is better than none.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 03:07 PM   #13
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I bought the a cannon C30 , it is not the best safe out there but better than most . That's why I also have a alarm and extra firearms insurance . The reasons I got it were life time warranty , even if damaged by a burglar , price , weight , availability , and it is made in the USA.
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The biggest, best, most fire proof one you can afford. I've got two now and purchased my first one in 1983 when they had not caught up with building many fire resistant ones. Once I filled it up I went with a Liberty fire resistant safe that is about 800 lbs and is supposed to last 1 hour at about 1500 degrees. I keep my better guns in there now and the lesser guns in my old Browning/Prosteel safe I picked up in 1983. In 1987 our house was broken into and the Browning safe saved my collection. They only got 1 gun, the house gun that was not in the safe.
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Okay, I just got a new Cannon. The selling factors were the 1 hour fire resistance, the semi-heavy guage steel, and I wanted an electronic lock. It took a suspected burglar/gun thief next door, and the cops hiding out in our garage to convince my wife we needed it.

That being said, I just got a good safe at around $1000... No safe is break-in proof.

Before buying, I asked here and at "officer.com" for peoples opinions on Safes. The advice was much the same "get the biggest you can afford" is what I was told over and over. At officer.com, I asked if anyone had seen one broken into. Of all the LEO's there, only one responded in the positive. He saw one "broken" into by someone who had the combo (an inside job).

Not one LEO reported a successful attempt otherwise. That's good juju, from my perspective.

Having said that, remember that my wife wasn't too excited about it until recent events made her grudgingly agree to get one. Well, when people say that they fill up fast, they aren't kidding. Mine is 30x24x60, and as soon as my wife realized that all her jewelry and such could go in it, she went wild (and I'm glad!).

It's a hostile takeover and my guns are already starting to compete for space. :)

So I'll repeat the best advice I got: get the biggest you can afford. You will be surprised at how quick it fills.
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