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Related Gear & Equipment Concealed carry requires some support equipment outside of a gun and holster. This is the place to discuss packs, lights, batons, and everything else.

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Old May 30th, 2008, 03:08 PM   #1
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Concealed body armor

I'm just started to work undercover. I can't use my bulky vest that I had while patroling. I'm looking for the thinnest and lighest body armor available. Do you all have any suggestions?

It must offer protection against all 9mm ammunition and have stab protection.

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Old May 30th, 2008, 03:17 PM   #2
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ive heard good things about Platinum AA302 Series undercover armor. comfortable and low visibility. not sure on the getting stuck with a knife part though.
there is also the thinblue model
Thin Blue Line :: First Choice Armor
dont know much about it but seems good
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Old May 30th, 2008, 03:41 PM   #3
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A client of my company is Armorshield LLC which is a wholly owned subsdiary of US Cavalry.
They provide just such a product called the 'Couger' under their 'Covert Armor' line. It supports add-on drop-in ceramic plates for high velocity and rifle round protection as well. All designed for undercover concealed under clothing coverage.

COUGAR™

I have not directly seen this product under go testing nor have I worn it yet so I cannot speak to it's capabilities or comfort as by intent of application.

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Old May 30th, 2008, 04:39 PM   #4
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The ABA extreme is one of the lightest/thinest vests available. But.... it has some of the laminated materials in it. These have less that acceptable performance against contact shots. The US Armor classic is an all aramid type vest that offers the best balance of protection and comfort.
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Old May 30th, 2008, 07:50 PM   #5
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You work "undercover" and want to wear a vest? Wow... a new one on me. That would be a death sentence here in the states.
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Old May 30th, 2008, 08:10 PM   #6
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You work "undercover" and want to wear a vest? Wow... a new one on me. That would be a death sentence here in the states.
Not if you have one of them undercover badges, too!
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Old May 31st, 2008, 11:45 AM   #7
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Any thoughts on used lightweight body armor for civilians? I suppose there are increasing levels of protection. Would the less protective level of armor be worthwhile? How is the comfort level of the lightweight stuff. (I used to wear a vest in the service 40 years ago.)
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Old May 31st, 2008, 11:53 AM   #8
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THe newer IIIA vests are lighter and more flxible than the older IIA vests.

Police generally wear the IIA, but in the last few years some have been upgrading to the IIIA.

I am curently using a IIIA that is lighter and thinner than my old IIA.
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Old May 31st, 2008, 12:11 PM   #9
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I'm unaware of any vest meeting the perameters you describe. Basically, even with today's advancements in vest technology, and despite what the marketers might have you believe, unless you're hiding it under the right kind of clothing, even with "the right build," vests get noticed. Especially by folks looking for them at across the room distances. If your life depends on that not happening, do not fool yourself. It will happen.
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That said, II and IIIa vests have advanced enough so that adequately sized, appropriate clothing, can help conceal them to the point that they shouldn't get noticed at "across the street" and "down the hallway" distances.

Which is why it is common for the UC to not be able to have a vest on, where as "the calvary" may be able to pull it off.

But... You still want it and can pull it off? I'd try on level II and IIIa vests until I found the one that fit best under what I expected to be wearing. Different carriers fit different people... differently. Bring a friend who knows what to look for, and subject yourself to the type of scrutiny a criminal with a gun in his hand will be giving you.

Note: A person's build and how they carry themselves can make a big difference. I know folks that just can't pull off a natural look in a vest, no matter how hard they try.
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