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Old December 28th, 2005, 06:00 PM   #11
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For what I have, in weapons, I have a walk-in type.
The Fort Knox, Cannon, and similar are great safes. With enough time, ANYBODY can defeat the combo, electronic tumbles, etc. and get your stuff.
I'd say, a Cannon, due to their warranty, coupled with a permimiter security system might be your best bet. Just my input here
I'm had the Fort Knox, and Browning. TheFort knox seemed better.
Active bolts all the way around, and hidden hindges along with a small sign that states: "CAUTION! NO SMOKING! EXPLOSIVE MATERIALS WITHIN" might also do the trick
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Old December 29th, 2005, 06:00 PM   #12
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Browning Pro Steel Silver Series..... That is the cheep one. They come with NO interrior which is the way that I wanted them so as to be able to custom finish them for the weapons that I own. I needed a safe with a limited number of shelves but more room to store long guns,so that's what interior I built. I have 3 of the safes,two for long guns and one for pistol's,revo's,and various other expensive stuff(watchs,knives,binos,etc.). The interiors are very easily changed as needed. My opinion and reccommendation is that you need a safe. The $200 ones are "lockable gun cabinates" That's all. The bigger safes(I can get inside mine and close the door and I'm a big guy)will defeat all but the most determined and well equipped thief. The thief that is certin that they have unlimited time in your house. Think about it.... SAME AS A BANK. My safes are bolted to the wall studs. Fully loaded the safes weigh ??? a hellove allot. You can also,as I did,use your imagineation to set up other little surprises for the would be thief. BUY A SAFE,put your valuables in it. Then leave home knowing that you've done all you can to protect you valuable guns. ---------
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Old December 29th, 2005, 10:16 PM   #13
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I sort of built my own safe in our current home by installing a sheet of metal on the inside of the door and covering THAT with felt thru which I drilled the "J" hooks on which I hang my handguns. Long guns nestle in the corners. I also installed two key locking deadbolts and take those keys with me whenever we leave the house. The system is "ON" and then there are the two newfoundland dogs....

The next home, we're going to build from the ground....DOWN.

http://www.formworksbuilding.com/

http://www.daviscaves.com

My wife has promised me that we'll install an entire gunsafe and valuables ROOM with a real honest to god VAULT door by Fort Knox. These earth sheltered homes are all rebar reinforced concrete anyway....can't get much more secure.

If I had my way, I'd buy this home or build it in my own area:

http://www.ultimatesecurehome.com Surf around the site and check out all it's features. Man it appeals to the paranoid in me...
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http://www.ultimatesecurehome.com Surf around the site and check out all it's features. Man it appeals to the paranoid in me...

That place is awesome i could dig living there
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ANY safe,residential storage unit, lockable guncabinet or whatever the heck you call it is better than NOTHING.

FWIW, Ive seen 3 of the elcheapo safes that Wlamart sells drug behind two trucks and one dropped off a 70 foot bluff without either one of them opening. The crooks just gave up. They were small enough that they could be manhandled, but the were stout enough to resist prybars amd being dropped on rocks. The one that was dropped off of a bluff had a seriously warped frame and the door was tweaked, but not enough to get a gun out off.

When I was on the city Fire Dept. over 25 years ago I fought many fully involved housefires with some of the being total losses and many of them being gutted. I remember seeing one safe in the corner of a what used to be a house and it had the paint burnt off. The owner opened up the safe and the contents in it were still cool to the touch.

Most fire proof safes are rated for 30 minutes at 1200 degrees. I have never seen a fully involved structure last more than 10 minutes before it was burnt to the ground.

Its true that a RKI could breach a safe. Those people are few and far between.They are so few that they are not a danger to the average person. What we are really looking to do is keep your neighbors kids, the crackhead down the street and the gangbangers looking for loot out of your stuff and even the cheapest safes will do that reasonably well.

The peace of mind of having your stuff secure is well worth whatever price you decide to pay...
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