A interesting discovery about tactical lights... - Page 2

frankmako · February 20th, 2006, 02:39 PM

I use a Streamlight M3 on my Glock 22 & Remington 870, a Surefire M951 on my Rock River A4, and a Surefire G2 on my raid belt during raids. The Raid Team that I am on uses our lights as a means to light up the room when we enter it during a raid. Broad beam, narrow beam is does not matter as long that we can see what’s in the room and control the threat. The M3, G2, and M951 are good lights for what we do.

DDGator · February 21st, 2006, 12:07 AM

Well, the point RSSZ, the light functions at a distance that a contact weapon cannot. It is also no level of force (legally speaking) whatsoever, and may be tactically appropriate when gouging someone's eye out is not.

I have experimented with the 120 lumen lights in dark environment, and I think they are pretty effective for what they are -- it is not going to stop a determined attacker, but probably can't do any harm when trying to create distance and preparing to fight if he can close the distance. It also has the effect of lighting up the attacker to better assess his weapons if any, and may help draw the attention of bystanders.

In no way am I suggesting a flashlight is an incapacitating weapon. Then again, neither is a pistol, necessarily. ;)

RSSZ · February 21st, 2006, 07:50 AM

Another thing to consider is..... if you want to shoot a person holding a light, the light beam is a good place to start. Put a couple, a foot or so above the center of the beam and you'll probably center punch him. For me a light is for target ID and something to put my front sight on. --------

Optimistic Paranoid · March 4th, 2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DDGator

Yep, that is why I have different tactical lights for different applications. Still looking for the one light that does it all.

Doesn't SureFire make an accessory called a "Beamshaper" that provides that wider angle? Just like the colored filters but a Fresnel Lens or somesuch, and flips out of the way when you need the tighter focused beam for distance.

Anyone tried one of them yet?

gregarat · March 4th, 2006, 07:40 PM

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I try to teach my students not to expect outta their light. I don't care how many lumens.

So very true.

I have learned from personal experience at work. That the light is a outstanding thing to make someome flinch as a distraction, to be followed up quickly with another action.

For me the ideal light would be, to have an high output bulb for the E2D

. Untill then I think a 9P with a high output bulb is best for my line of work.

February 21st, 2006, 12:07 AM	#12
DDGator Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 144	Well, the point RSSZ, the light functions at a distance that a contact weapon cannot. It is also no level of force (legally speaking) whatsoever, and may be tactically appropriate when gouging someone's eye out is not. I have experimented with the 120 lumen lights in dark environment, and I think they are pretty effective for what they are -- it is not going to stop a determined attacker, but probably can't do any harm when trying to create distance and preparing to fight if he can close the distance. It also has the effect of lighting up the attacker to better assess his weapons if any, and may help draw the attention of bystanders. In no way am I suggesting a flashlight is an incapacitating weapon. Then again, neither is a pistol, necessarily. ;) __________________ DDGator (Duane) www.RealWorldCarryGear.com

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February 20th, 2006, 02:39 PM	#11
frankmako Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 1,890	I use a Streamlight M3 on my Glock 22 & Remington 870, a Surefire M951 on my Rock River A4, and a Surefire G2 on my raid belt during raids. The Raid Team that I am on uses our lights as a means to light up the room when we enter it during a raid. Broad beam, narrow beam is does not matter as long that we can see what’s in the room and control the threat. The M3, G2, and M951 are good lights for what we do.

February 21st, 2006, 07:50 AM	#13
RSSZ Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,847	Another thing to consider is..... if you want to shoot a person holding a light, the light beam is a good place to start. Put a couple, a foot or so above the center of the beam and you'll probably center punch him. For me a light is for target ID and something to put my front sight on. --------