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Related Gear & Equipment Concealed or open carry requires some support equipment outside of a gun and holster. This is the place to discuss packs, lights, batons, and everything else.

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Old February 20th, 2006, 10:01 AM   #1
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A interesting discovery about tactical lights...

I got started with handheld tactical lights with a SF (SureFire) 6Z, then a C2, then an M3, and then a A2 (Aviator - 3 low power LEDs around a Xenon bulb). My A2 has red LEDs. And some where along the way I picked up an StreamLight M3 WML (weapon mounted light) and a SF X200. All these lights have one thing in common, a blinding bright, sharply focused beam.

Then last Spring my projects class, as a project, evaluated 20 tactical lights for intensity and rundown characteristics. But more impressive to me was the subjective tests. The students got in a dark room here at school, turned on tac lights one at a time and each student ranked the lights according to what they saw.

All but one student gave the SureFire L2 a poor ranking because it wasn't as sharply focused as the others. I couldn't get that one student's opinion of the L2 off my mind (which I disagreed with BTW), and also because it is a dual intensity LED light, I started carrying the L2 as a personal light.

I carried it regularly and used it for just about all my lighting needs. I often "examined" a dark room before I turned the lights on just to see what I could see with the broadly focused L2. I regularly compared the low intensity and high intensity beams.

Then one night, I decided to revert back to my Streamlight TL2 LED for its compactness and more intensely focused beam. The first time I turned the TL2 LED on in a dark room, I was surprised that my reaction was, "I can't see with this light!" The beam was full brightness, focused as always, but the problem is, it has very little light in the "lobes". In other words, it only illuminates the area covered by the focused beam. I had grown accustom to the L2's broad beam that really lights up a room, "wall to wall".

That's when I realized the L2's broader focus was much better than a tighter focus indoors or at shorter ranges. I got the same effect when I switched on my X200A this weekend. It is a tightly focused beam and I quickly noticed how narrow the beam was - just like most other tactical lights.

So as a result of about a year living with the L2, I have concluded that the broader beam is generally better for "inside" and short ranges. BTW, the L2 does have an Achilles heel, if you run it for 20 - 25 minutes continuous, it will overheat and get so hot you can hardly hold it and it starts blinking.
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Old February 20th, 2006, 10:07 AM   #2
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Personally, i feel the narrow beam, is brighter at longer distances, therefore better if you can use it before someone gets close. I can live with the narrow focus drawback.
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Old February 20th, 2006, 10:25 AM   #3
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It is certain that tactics, etc. generally must be driven by the particular situation. If I'm in my house, the broader beam is demonstratably a big plus. I can simply see more, better. If I'm past 30 feet or so a tighter beam may be a bit more appropriate, again depending on the particular situation. Longer distances certainly favor the tighter beam.

I guess it comes down to are we expecting to use our lights primarily in close or distant situations. For me, neither does best at both. If a tight beam is called for, a broader beam is a poor substitute; if a broad beam is called for, a tightly focused beam is a poor substitute.
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Old February 20th, 2006, 10:29 AM   #4
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I converted my M2 to a LED head just so I could have this broader coverage and the longer battery life. Many time a really bright tight beam in a small room is not what is really needed.
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Yep, that is why I have different tactical lights for different applications. Still looking for the one light that does it all.
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Most people IMO want/expect their little lights to do some kinda "damage" to the BG. I teach that you should not expect this. IMO the little lights that some people carry shoud be used for targeting only. Use the light to that advantage. For this application I would suggest a wider beam that not only lights up the BG but also throws some(if even dim) light on the surrounding area. This,especially indoors.(Disclamer >>I am not a lighting GURU)--------
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Old February 20th, 2006, 11:45 AM   #7
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I agree you can't expect that. However, when I am in a "no firearms" zone, I always carry my 120 lumen SureFire, hoping the blinding effect at night would at least buy me some time to run or hit the guy if appropriate.
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Still looking for the one light that does it all.
Ahhh - the luminary Nirvana Duane

I favor on balance pretty much what my lil' LED head E1e does - good core intensity which gives reasonable reach but useful edge bleed diffusion - which in real dark does spread enough to pull in some peripheral detail.

Small, not ''up there'' with the big boys but - easy to tote and enough for my needs.
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I may have told you this before, but I have same light and it gets more use than any of the others -- because it is so small. And yet, it cranks out a lot of light. Mine has the green filter.

I have some new SureFires and Digilights coming in a few weeks though.. :)
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DDGator, With respect sir,this is what I try to teach my students not to expect outta their light. I don't care how many lumens. It would be better served as an impact weapon. If someone presents a gun or knife to you,you'd better think of something to do besides shine a not so bright light in their eye and expect them to fall to their knees. If your in a "no firearms zone" carefully choose a blade or impact weapon. I am not a impact weapon sorta guy but train with guys that are. They say that if the BG is close enough to you that the light emitting from your little light will even start to hurt their eyes or cause them any great degree of "night blindness" stick the light in their eye socket, don't try to shine 'em with it. ------
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