BikerRN

For the most part, those of you that understand the true application and proper usage for a laser have them and use them.

I myself was a late convert to even Night Sights. I always used the same old tired argument about how if it's too dark to see my target it's too dark to shoot. Blah, Blah, Blah.

Now I have Night Sights and a Laser on my off duty EDC and I keep lights on my long guns. I still prefer no white light on my handguns because of how I use a handgun, and the situations I have found myself in over the years.

If the choice was between a laser and Night Sights I would choose the laser, but I'm lucky and have both on my off duty gun. My agency has not seen fit to issue lights or lasers for the on duty guns. I hope that will change in the future, but I'm not holding my breath. I will just do the best I can do and train like my life depends upon it, because it does.

I carry a light anytime I have pants on. It's clipped to my pocket, or on my Duty Belt. I have found that I use the light more often than a gun. That's one reason why I don't like lights on my handgun, as I don't like pointing a loaded gun at non-adversaries. As far as long arms and lights, I only have two hands and find it too difficult to operate a light and a long gun. Also, if I'm reaching for a long arm I already have a pretty good indication that there is a verifiable threat present.

An arguement can be made that you can operate the light/gun while using the other hand to open/close doors, talk on the radio/phone or perform other various functions. Most of these gun lights operate by means of an On/Off Switch or a Pressure Switch. I'm not fast enough to operate the On/Off Switch in such a manner that I don't give myself away or calm and cool enough that I don't take a very firm grip on the gun, thus activating the light, when I draw it for real.

IMHO, for a handgun, the light belongs in the support hand. Light Discipline is too often ignored by too many IMO. The same can be said of lasers, but my trigger finger technique blocks the laser from giving me away.

I like lasers, night sights and lights. The "trick" is knowing how to properly use them and when they can/should be used.

Biker

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AllAmerican

The question was whether or not they were "on" the weapon.

I do not disagree with your post though.

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ncligs

I have CT lasers on all three of my cc/home defense weapons (see signature). I will take any advantage I can get over the BG.

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P7fanatic

I see nothing wrong with it. In fact I believe it is a very good idea, especially for someone that does not shoot their EDC/SD weapon very often. In the heat of the moment, one does not always have the time or may be not even thinking of acquiring good aim on the target. To be able to see a red dOt on what you are shooting at would be very helpful, IMO.

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SIGP250

No,

Most lasers point to where you target. This means that if you accurately site, the laser beam should not be at all visible.

If on the other hand you are a point shooter a laser might be useful.

Most are not trained to shoot from the hip but this is what a laser grip might be useful for.

In theory, the bullet follows that path of where the laser is pointed.
Sounds great, except this depends on grip and trigger pull exactly the same as without laser grips. Training is most important. Lasers in my option will not improve your skill or shooting ability until unless you are an accurate shooter to begin with.

As a training aid I would pass even though I sell them.

I do recommend night sights.

Unless you are a tactical LEO a flashlight might do northing but alert a possible target. I sell all but don't recommend to everyone except for special needs.

I will say though, If you have formidable weapon and paint a laser trace on an assailant's forehead the assailant will probably think twice before you are forced to unload what it might take to stop the intruder.

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jdivence

IMHO if you choose to go the CT or lazermax route your are not excused from practicing with your iron sights. theses things can fail and should not be relighted on 100% that being said. use 'em if you got 'em.

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BikerRN

I was trying to provide some reasoning or rationale behind my decisions, hence the long post.

Biker

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patrol

I have a crimson trace on one of my Kimbers, but I'd rather have it on my jframe. Anyone who knocks a laser has never really done any low light combat shooting with one. They are excellent for point shooting where you dont use your sights just point and shoot. Rail lights are excellent as well. I have one on Duty weapon and hope we get the holsters that will accomodate the full time mount soon. Right now we just pop it on as needed.

AutoFan

I have a Crimson Trace on my 1911, but it isn't my carry or HD weapon.

AmmoSphere

Waste of money and you have to worry about batteries all the time.

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