Do you have lasers and lights... - Page 7

ToddG · May 10th, 2009, 11:55 PM

mfcmb -- I agree that a laser isn't likely to deter someone once shots are flying in both directions.

But attacks don't always involve shots going in two directions. Especially when you're talking about a tiny gun, the laser could quite literally be the most obvious sign that the defender has a gun in the first place. Maybe she draws the gun because a guy is threatening her with a knife, or even just superior size & strength.

Again, there's a difference between seeing a gun and seeing that a bullet is about to pierce your upper chest.

I'll parrot Crimson Trace's common argument: given how much a self-defense shooting will cost you in legal fees, even if the laser has just a small chance to saving you from having to fire, it's paid for itself countless times over.

ExSoldier · May 11th, 2009, 12:06 AM

Some time ago, I was standing in line for my favorite BBQ spot and the line was outside and it was very dark. Suddenly the unmistakeable dot of a laser painted my chest! Man I about freaked! I had my cover garment halfway swept and I was in a semi-crouch scanning the darkness trying to discern the threat. Then a KID hops into view, giggling and waving his POINTER! I went to the parents and sweating and shaking I told them their kid could get killed in Miami with that "toy." I did not tell them I had almost drawn on the brat, but I explained very carefully. THe mom grabbed the laser from her son and tossed it down a grated storm drain. The kid was glaring all daggers at me for getting his toy trashed. "Dad" I think knew what had almost happened since I think he was standing near me when I went into "ready to go RED mode." I explained the whole thing to my wife and she was very shaken as well. Not every laser dot is a sight.

SIGP250 · May 11th, 2009, 02:20 AM

One of the reasons I frequent this forum is the vast knowledge of many forum members.

I'm CCW, FFL, a certified journeyman gunsmith and an avid shooter.
I must admit I have not been shooting all my life as many members here have.

I'm a student of defensive carry and a good marksman. I'm not much of a hunter.

My focus is defensive carry and target shooting and smithing. There is a big difference in the topics I focus on.

I appreciate every members reply I receive.

Thank you all.

May 10th, 2009, 11:55 PM	#61
ToddG Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 86	mfcmb -- I agree that a laser isn't likely to deter someone once shots are flying in both directions. But attacks don't always involve shots going in two directions. Especially when you're talking about a tiny gun, the laser could quite literally be the most obvious sign that the defender has a gun in the first place. Maybe she draws the gun because a guy is threatening her with a knife, or even just superior size & strength. Again, there's a difference between seeing a gun and seeing that a bullet is about to pierce your upper chest. I'll parrot Crimson Trace's common argument: given how much a self-defense shooting will cost you in legal fees, even if the laser has just a small chance to saving you from having to fire, it's paid for itself countless times over. __________________ Train Hard, Stay Safe! Todd Louis Green pistol-training.com

May 11th, 2009, 12:06 AM	#62
ExSoldier VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Coral Gables, FL Posts: 4,856	Some time ago, I was standing in line for my favorite BBQ spot and the line was outside and it was very dark. Suddenly the unmistakeable dot of a laser painted my chest! Man I about freaked! I had my cover garment halfway swept and I was in a semi-crouch scanning the darkness trying to discern the threat. Then a KID hops into view, giggling and waving his POINTER! I went to the parents and sweating and shaking I told them their kid could get killed in Miami with that "toy." I did not tell them I had almost drawn on the brat, but I explained very carefully. THe mom grabbed the laser from her son and tossed it down a grated storm drain. The kid was glaring all daggers at me for getting his toy trashed. "Dad" I think knew what had almost happened since I think he was standing near me when I went into "ready to go RED mode." I explained the whole thing to my wife and she was very shaken as well. Not every laser dot is a sight. __________________ Former Infantry Captain; 20 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.

May 11th, 2009, 02:20 AM	#63
SIGP250 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ST. LOUIS, MO Posts: 420	Lasers and Lights -dux One of the reasons I frequent this forum is the vast knowledge of many forum members. I'm CCW, FFL, a certified journeyman gunsmith and an avid shooter. I must admit I have not been shooting all my life as many members here have. I'm a student of defensive carry and a good marksman. I'm not much of a hunter. My focus is defensive carry and target shooting and smithing. There is a big difference in the topics I focus on. I appreciate every members reply I receive. Thank you all. __________________ If you understand, things are just as they are... If you do not understand, things are just as they are.... - Zen Saying

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