highoctane

Id go for the night sites. Im looking for some myself. Cant make up my mind.

HowardCohodas

Initially, I opted for a Crimson Trace on my EDC M&P 45FS. I find a laser an indispensable training tool. Maintaining smooth trigger pull with minimal muzzle movement is difficult to achieve and maintain without constant repetition. The red dot on the wall 8-12 feet away amplifies any muzzle movement to an extent that cannot be ignored. Your natural biofeedback system will perfect and maintain your trigger discipline efficiently. With the cost and availability of ammo, can still dry-fire 2-3 times per week but may only visit the range 1-2 times per month. Competition is no longer affordable for me.

Of course lasers have their well promoted tactical benefits. For those of us who have been near-sighted all our lives, it's helpful to have backup for no-glassed situations.

Night sights solve a different problem. I was eventually convinced by a nationally known trainer friend to add night sights. I eventually settled on Warren 2-dot sights. For reasons I cannot explain, the 2-dot sights enable me to now be able to shoot with both eyes open without thinking about it. An unexpected and welcome additional benefit.

Bottom line... A laser first as it enables economical training. With the price of ammo, it doesn't take long to "pay for" even an expensive laser like a Crimson Trace. Add the night sights when able. It's always appropriate to have a plan B if your electronics fail. And it makes your firearm easy to locate in the dark.

From the training benefit alone, I will no longer EDC a handgun without a Crimson Trace on it. My BUG is an LCP with a Crimson Trace.

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What if you're in a situation where you're in the dark, but your target is backlit or has enough ambient lighting to light him and not you?

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BikerRN

This subject has been beat to death, and I've even posted on it and started my own threads even.

That was a hint to use the Search feature by the way, as you will gain some great information to go with what is and will be posted here. My opinion will agree and differ from various posters, depending upon the poster.

I myself started years ago with Iron Sights and was slow to accept night sights. Finally, kicking and screaming I was brought forth in to the twentieth century. I came to accept night sights and was happy with that replacing the Liquid Paper I used to carefully apply to my Front Sight. Then, lo and behold, I decided to try a laser.

While lasers aren't for every situation, and I knowing what a perfect sight picture looks like, I would rather have the laser than the night sights if I could only have one. Each has their place and they are both on my EDC though.

Wearing glasses and being near sighted may tend to influence my choices. Also, having been in low light confrontations, all three of them were what one would describe as "not perfect lighting", I look for any advantage I can get and like my Tool Box to be bountiful. Therefore, if you can I recommend both. If you can only have one, get the laser and spend a lot of time shooting with your Iron Sights. You should be doing that anyway, as there is no short cut for "trigger time" IMO.

The laser just "helps" it doesn't replace. The same can be said for night sights, but I see greater assistance from the laser over the night sights.

+1 to having a good flashlight. When I carry a gun, which is daily, I always have some form of communication device and illumination device that is hand held. I've learned both lessons from the "School of Hard Knocks".

Take care and stay safe.

Biker

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I'd be interested to know if anyone has any experience with SureSight .

I used the search feature on the forum but didn't find anything.

TIA

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crzy4guns

If cost is a concern and you do not want your EDC or HD handgun decorated with all of the latest and greatest fancy doodads, then buy a small flashlight and use it to illuminate the BG(s) and your sights at the same time.

Everyone should have some sort of hand held illumination device as a part of his or her self defense equipment as what BikerRN stated previously.

Day or night. OMO.

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TIA,

thanks for the head's up on the SureSights. I haven't seen them before, but they look interesting. I have seen a similiar sight on Steyr M series pistol, though the top triangle nested in the lower part of the triangle on the rear sight.

On the topic at hand - I'm hesitant to put my life in the hands of a battery. Not to mention, in a stressful situation, I don't want to be looking for a small red dot swimming on my target. Night sights or point shooting for me.

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retsupt99

Night sights are the only addition I make my pistols used as EDC's.
Roaming in a dark house and seeing the outline of the BG is all one needs.
My six decade old eyes enjoy the dots during the day and the 'glowing dots' in low light/no light situations at night.

Stay armed...get Trij's...stay safe!

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BradyM77

BUY SureSight
Backed up for 6-12 weeks.

Night Sights and lots of practice. IMO

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Bob O

Both! In darkness the laser provides more advantages, but if the laser malfunctions or you have reason not to use use it you always have the night sights.

Bobo

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