Tactical Flashlight on Airplane? - Page 3

roninroshi · August 23rd, 2009, 07:14 PM

I carry a G2 Led...never had a problem.

nedrgr21 · August 23rd, 2009, 10:46 PM

Here's some more info from TSA: (not such a dumb question by the way). While flashlights may not be a problem, batteries could be.

As of January 1, 2008, the Department of Transportation (DOT) through the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA) no longer allows loose lithium batteries in checked baggage.
Some Tips for Safe Travel With Batteries

* Keep batteries and equipment with you, or in carry-on baggage - not in your checked baggage! In the cabin, flight crew can better monitor conditions, and have access to the batteries or device if a fire does occur.
* Buy batteries from reputable sources and only use batteries approved for your device – avoid counterfeits! A counterfeit battery is more likely to cause a fire in your equipment – costing you more in the long run, and compromising safety.
* Look for the mark of an independent testing or standards organization, such as Underwriters Laboratories (UL) or International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC).
* Do not carry recalled or damaged batteries on aircraft. Check battery recall information at the manufacturer's website, or at the Consumer Product Safety Commission.
* Only charge batteries which you are sure are rechargeable! Non-rechargeable batteries are not designed for recharging, and become hazardous if placed in a battery charger. A non-rechargeable battery placed in a charger may overheat or cause damage later.
* Only use a charger compatible with your rechargeable battery – don’t mix and match!
* If original packaging is not available for spare batteries, effectively insulate battery terminals by isolating the batteries from contact with other batteries and metal. Do not permit a loose battery to come in contact with metal objects, such as coins, keys, or jewelry.
* Place each battery in its own protective case, plastic bag, or package, or place tape across the battery's contacts to isolate terminals. Isolating terminals prevents short-circuiting.
* Take steps to prevent crushing, puncturing, or putting a high degree of pressure on the battery, as this can cause an internal short-circuit, resulting in overheating.
* If you must carry a battery-powered device in any baggage, package it to prevent inadvertent activation. For instance, you should pack a cordless power tool in a protective case, with a trigger lock engaged. If there is an on-off switch or a safety switch, tape it in the "off" position.

Lithium Batteries: Safety and Security

Image of a lithium ion battery.Lithium-ion batteries, often found in laptop computers, differ from primary lithium batteries, which are often used in cameras. Some newer AA-size batteries are also primary lithium.

While there is no explosion hazard associated with either kind of battery, the Federal Aviation Administration has studied fire hazards associated with both primary and lithium-ion cells, and their extensive research is publicly available. As a result of this research, the FAA no longer allows large, palletized shipments of these batteries to be transported as cargo on passenger aircraft.

The research also shows that an explosion will not result from shorting or damaging either lithium-ion or primary lithium batteries. Both are, however, extremely flammable. Primary lithium batteries cannot be extinguished with firefighting agents normally carried on aircraft, whereas lithium-ion batteries are easily extinguished by most common extinguishing agents, including those carried on board commercial aircraft.

TSA has and will continue to work closely with the FAA on potential aviation safety and security issues, and TSA security officers are thoroughly and continually trained to find explosive threats. TSA does not have plans to change security regulations for electronic devices powered by lithium batteries.

cz2075bd · August 24th, 2009, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeyeLCPL

I usually have my 6p LED in my carry on, never had a problem with it. Personally I'd be careful with some of the "strike bezel" lights, but other than that I've never had a problem with a flashlight in my bag.

I carried an OLight with a strike bezel on AirTran a few weeks ago, TSA didn't say anything. I'm not sure but I think one factor might be the length of the flashlight.

greenLED · August 27th, 2009, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenSaber

Could you carry something like a SureFire E2D onto an airplane or in a carry bag?

Any TSA people on the forum that can answer that?

Yes, you can. Remember:
- it's just a flashlight; flight attendants and pilots are required to have them to use in emergencies - you like to be prepared
- "strike bezel"? Nope, those are crenalations, so that you can tell if the light is on when placed on a table (you can demonstrate that super easy).

GoldenSaber · August 29th, 2009, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenLED

Yes, you can. Remember:
- it's just a flashlight; flight attendants and pilots are required to have them to use in emergencies - you like to be prepared
- "strike bezel"? Nope, those are crenalations, so that you can tell if the light is on when placed on a table (you can demonstrate that super easy).

Thanks. Very good answer.

JRI · August 31st, 2009, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenSaber

Thank you for your trite response. I always like the resident know it all who belittles others with their superior knowledge, unless I am reading it wrong. To answer your question, I did look at the TSA website, thank you very much, and as you have hammered home, flashlights aren't on the list. However, I asked about a specific model with a bezel that is designed and advertised to be a strike weapon. Didn't see that CLARIFIED in the TSA area. Before I threw it in a bag and then had them confiscate a $200 flashlight they considered a "weapon" I thought I would pose it here. Sorry if it was a bother for you to look it up only to provide me with information I already had. Thus I was hoping a TSA person could share their opinion on the matter.

I think you're reading it correctly but where would be be without them? Kind of adds spice to the forums.

FreeDelivery · August 31st, 2009, 01:10 PM

Regarding the bezel: tell them it's a "map-reading light."

August 31st, 2009, 01:10 PM	#27
FreeDelivery Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 90	Only read p.1 Regarding the bezel: tell them it's a "map-reading light."

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August 23rd, 2009, 07:14 PM	#21
roninroshi New Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: MT Posts: 11	I carry a G2 Led...never had a problem.

August 23rd, 2009, 10:46 PM	#22
nedrgr21 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: KCMO Posts: 556	Here's some more info from TSA: (not such a dumb question by the way). While flashlights may not be a problem, batteries could be. As of January 1, 2008, the Department of Transportation (DOT) through the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA) no longer allows loose lithium batteries in checked baggage. Some Tips for Safe Travel With Batteries * Keep batteries and equipment with you, or in carry-on baggage - not in your checked baggage! In the cabin, flight crew can better monitor conditions, and have access to the batteries or device if a fire does occur. * Buy batteries from reputable sources and only use batteries approved for your device – avoid counterfeits! A counterfeit battery is more likely to cause a fire in your equipment – costing you more in the long run, and compromising safety. * Look for the mark of an independent testing or standards organization, such as Underwriters Laboratories (UL) or International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC). * Do not carry recalled or damaged batteries on aircraft. Check battery recall information at the manufacturer's website, or at the Consumer Product Safety Commission. * Only charge batteries which you are sure are rechargeable! Non-rechargeable batteries are not designed for recharging, and become hazardous if placed in a battery charger. A non-rechargeable battery placed in a charger may overheat or cause damage later. * Only use a charger compatible with your rechargeable battery – don’t mix and match! * If original packaging is not available for spare batteries, effectively insulate battery terminals by isolating the batteries from contact with other batteries and metal. Do not permit a loose battery to come in contact with metal objects, such as coins, keys, or jewelry. * Place each battery in its own protective case, plastic bag, or package, or place tape across the battery's contacts to isolate terminals. Isolating terminals prevents short-circuiting. * Take steps to prevent crushing, puncturing, or putting a high degree of pressure on the battery, as this can cause an internal short-circuit, resulting in overheating. * If you must carry a battery-powered device in any baggage, package it to prevent inadvertent activation. For instance, you should pack a cordless power tool in a protective case, with a trigger lock engaged. If there is an on-off switch or a safety switch, tape it in the "off" position. Lithium Batteries: Safety and Security Image of a lithium ion battery.Lithium-ion batteries, often found in laptop computers, differ from primary lithium batteries, which are often used in cameras. Some newer AA-size batteries are also primary lithium. While there is no explosion hazard associated with either kind of battery, the Federal Aviation Administration has studied fire hazards associated with both primary and lithium-ion cells, and their extensive research is publicly available. As a result of this research, the FAA no longer allows large, palletized shipments of these batteries to be transported as cargo on passenger aircraft. The research also shows that an explosion will not result from shorting or damaging either lithium-ion or primary lithium batteries. Both are, however, extremely flammable. Primary lithium batteries cannot be extinguished with firefighting agents normally carried on aircraft, whereas lithium-ion batteries are easily extinguished by most common extinguishing agents, including those carried on board commercial aircraft. TSA has and will continue to work closely with the FAA on potential aviation safety and security issues, and TSA security officers are thoroughly and continually trained to find explosive threats. TSA does not have plans to change security regulations for electronic devices powered by lithium batteries.