Paco

Not me. With my luck it would be an innocent ordeal and I'd wind up in jail for impersonating an officer.

Not to mention I have seen people who don't want to be cuffed in the act of and I just don't want to be put in that situation. I'd rather take a poke at a guy to gain distance and then be ready to draw if it came to that point.

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irish_ironsight

Please, Please, Please

DO NOT, carry any form of mechanical restraint unless you are:
1) Authorized to use
2) Certified in their use

Personally I served 10 year's in corrections and used them on an almost daily basis, we were all certified and trained annually to ensure that we were competent to use them.

In a genuine confrontation it is VERY DIFFICULT & DANGEROUS to try to restrain and subdue a combatant to the point where he / she can be safely cuffed.

WHO cares if you want to look like a L.E.O, personally I don't, but just think what you would look like dressed in Orange or Prison issue Stripe's.

Think of the financial aspect of doing injury to someone, I have seen wrist's and fingers being fractured in an attempt to cuff people, even in realistic training accident's occur.
Where would your family live after the Attorney's have been paid.

As other posters have pointed out, Hollywood and the Movie industry have made it look easy to subdue and detain people, the reality is very different.

If you have draw down on a suspect, you are faced with a choice, Fire or Hold your Fire, If your life is in imminant danger by all mean's fire and be prepared for the coming inquisition.

If the bad guy complies with your order's to desist you wont have to pull the trigger. If he or she want's to flea the scene, let them, as soon as they are disarmed and trying to flea they no longer pose a danger to you.

If you are not a L.E.O then be a good witness, and report every detail and let the Police handle the situation.

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hogdaddy

No hand cuffs ,But some zip ties not for two legged but for for legged (HOGS)

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InspectorGadget

They trained us to use Cuffs in the military before deployment. The first thing we were trained to do was hand off our weapon before we approached the BG so he can not get our weapon in a struggle. If there is a struggle, we try to get clear of the BG and our partner ends it. Of course now they have to read them their rights and get a lawyer there to protect the terrorist, I mean Misunderstood religeous person

BG will Lay dow facing away from me, and we wait for police. Handcuffs put me within arms reach, even if I had a partner to back me up I would rather have 2 clear fields of fire long before I wrestle with cuffs.

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jp4240

Thank you! I was under the impression that this was the place to ask questions....

Eirerogue

I'm a retired federal agent and carry under LEOSA. (HR218). While I carried handcuffs for many years, they (amongst other items) remain in a box in my garage.

I DO have a couple of sets of flex cuffs in my trunk in my emerg bag for tying together whatever.

Last month, I aided a uniformed officer who was handcuffing a suspect. He was trying to get the cuffs on a BIG guy who couldn't make the "stretch" behind his back. (You LEOs know what I mean). I got my flex cuffs out of the trunk and we pieced together a two-fer which worked just fine. It was like trying to hog-tie and large steer!

Got an atta' boy letter from the Chief and that's MY handcuff story!

Faitmaker

Nope. Uh uh. Can't do it. Won't do it. No reason for it. I got enough to carry. Don't have authority. Don't really want to have to carry my pistol but I do.

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Sky Pilot

Umm ... no.

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mengel4228

I would never carry any on my person. I do have flexy Cuffs in my BOB in the car. I have used them once at a party. A guy was heavily intoxicated and breaking everything in my friends house by waving his arms around. I grabbed my flexy cuffs as a threat to say go lay down and stop being stupid. He thought it was a joke so he put his hands around his back, so I applied them and walked him to a empty bathroom. I left him locked in the until to the next morning. Needless to say he was very ashamed of himself the next day and ended up paying a few hundred dollars to replace some lamps and other stuff.

I would not carry them for one main reason. God forbid you have to use your weapon, when you are taking into custody they will inventory all you belongings. It will look bad if you are caught with cuffs on you. They will make it seem to a jury like you are trying to be a police officer, or a cowboy.

Thats just my .02.

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Paymeister

You're right - this IS a place to ask questions, and to learn. And to contribute to helping the new guy.

Problem is, you pushed a hot button. Kinda like me reflecting on how nice the [insert new pistol or holster name] looks while we're still paying off VISA. I may have no intention whatever of buying it until we're out of debt, but I would be well-advised to not even mention it around my wife. I've made enough bone-headed decisions in the past that she has ample reason to think I might be on my way to one now: I just don't need to wave that red flag in front of her. Note: I wish I had listened to her 20 years ago - we would have been in a situation now in which I could have just phoned the company and had them send out the new [insert name of new pistol or holster] without a thought. Sigh...

YOU on the other hand, do NOT have a history of bone-headed decisions. However, WE DO have a history of dealing with bone-heads, and we sometimes don't get all the nuances of a post before reacting. Frankly, we're all a little jumpy over the new guy with the license who thinks he's Superman, and so an honest question which even has but a whiff of that will elicit all sorts of responses. Most, perhaps all of these responses have nothing to do with your honest question, and everything to do with frustration at some jerk weeks, months, or years ago. And some of these responses may even have their root in our own poor choices from years ago: I had a set of handcuffs at one point (several decades ago), which ultimately wound up holding my VW's trunk closed - a noble use! And I wanted a Concealed Carry badge, too, though I luckily thought this one through before I had saved enough box tops. I'm highly embarassed by my wannabe tendencies as a young man, and may overreact because of my own regrets as much as in response to a post.

If you were a cop (or Superman) wannabe then the criticisms above are valid (take note, other readers to whom this may apply). But you've stated you thought this would be a poor idea and wanted input on why it MIGHT be OK, so you're really in the same camp as we are. So please accept my apologies on behalf of the group here, and I hope you'll stick around.

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