Hand Cuffs

jp4240 · August 31st, 2009, 01:38 AM

Do any of you carry hand cuffs with you daily? I am really asking the non LEO people out there. I can think of a few situations that they may be used. And before anyone starts, I am not trying to be or impersonate a LEO. All of your replies are appreciated! Thank you...

Supertac45 · August 31st, 2009, 01:45 AM

I carry them at work in a prison. They is no fun in applying them to someone that doesn't want to be cuffed. You really are in a position a lot to lose control of the situation if you are alone. I wouldn't even consider it not knowing if help was coming like now on the street.

Keltyke · August 31st, 2009, 01:58 AM

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Do any of you carry hand cuffs with you daily? I am really asking the non LEO people out there. I can think of a few situations that they may be used.

Are you serious??? I can't think of one situation where I'd be authorized to use handcuffs. I am not a LEO. Carrying a concealed weapon makes me no different than any other private citizen. The ONLY time I'm permitted ( in SC) to draw and possibly fire my weapon is if "I believe I am in imminent danger of losing my life or sustaining grave bodily injury." I may not draw and fire to protect property. I may not draw and fire to protect others, except for the "third party" defense which can get you into severe legal trouble real quick. I have NO authority to detain anyone. If the guy refuses to be handcuffed, what'cha gonna do? Shoot him? If he runs away - in the back? Now you're up for Murder 2.

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I am not trying to be or impersonate a LEO.

Yes, you are. The minute you talk about restraining someone at gunpoint and handcuffing them, you're taking on the duties of a LEO.

Carrying a gun does NOT make you ANY TYPE of LEO or any other official police body. You wanna handcuff people? Join a force.

dukalmighty · August 31st, 2009, 02:09 AM

The only thing I would have handcuffs for is to secure my gun to the seat post in my vehicle while I had to leave it,other than that they stay in the bedroom where they belong

stevem174 · August 31st, 2009, 02:30 AM

Jp4240 I mean no offence to you, but when I read your question, I had a flashback to an old Mayberry RFD episode. Where Goober is running behind Barney yelling “CITIZENS ARREST…CITIZENS ARREST CITIZENS ARREST!!!!!” It made me LOL.
I can see where the thought of carrying handcuffs might seem like a good idea. I have used them in the past both in corrections and EMS, Supertac45 is correct it’s not fun. Trying to cuff someone is dangerous. Even when you are trained to properly apply them, you open yourself up to a physical confrontation. Also you can cause harm to a person’s wrist / hands during application. This could open you up for liability.
I have no intent of taking anyone into custody or detaining them so I have no reason to carry them.

J Bowen · August 31st, 2009, 03:12 AM

maybe a good item to have in your bedroom but wouldnt
carry handcuffs around. Would take up limited room anyway
you could carry a extra mag, flashlight, knife, or pepper spray
instead

tbrenke · August 31st, 2009, 03:39 AM

never have and never would.
there is never a situation that I would need them in. I will never arest someone. If I was in fear of my life I would shoot to stop the threat. doing a citacens arest is a can of worms that I never feel the need to open.

TerriLi · August 31st, 2009, 03:51 AM

Unless I was giving someone a gift of handcuffs I wouldn't have them on me. Its a can of worms, best leave them at home or in the store.

rstickle · August 31st, 2009, 08:25 AM

In a word, HELL NO! Oh, wait that's two words...

Pikachu711 · August 31st, 2009, 08:30 AM

As a security guard who's has been certified to carry handcuffs in the past I don't carry them with me while not working. I may own them, but I prefer not to carry them while I'm not working all the same.

August 31st, 2009, 01:38 AM	#1
jp4240 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Saginaw MI Posts: 36	Hand Cuffs Do any of you carry hand cuffs with you daily? I am really asking the non LEO people out there. I can think of a few situations that they may be used. And before anyone starts, I am not trying to be or impersonate a LEO. All of your replies are appreciated! Thank you...

August 31st, 2009, 01:45 AM	#2
Supertac45 VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan's U.P. Posts: 3,314	I carry them at work in a prison. They is no fun in applying them to someone that doesn't want to be cuffed. You really are in a position a lot to lose control of the situation if you are alone. I wouldn't even consider it not knowing if help was coming like now on the street. __________________ Les Baer 45 Sig Man N.R.A. Patron Life Member M.C.R.G.O.

August 31st, 2009, 02:09 AM	#4
dukalmighty VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: texas Posts: 6,383	The only thing I would have handcuffs for is to secure my gun to the seat post in my vehicle while I had to leave it,other than that they stay in the bedroom where they belong __________________ I like Poetry,Long Walks On The Beach,And Poking Dead Things With A Stick

August 31st, 2009, 02:30 AM	#5
stevem174 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: MO Posts: 84	Jp4240 I mean no offence to you, but when I read your question, I had a flashback to an old Mayberry RFD episode. Where Goober is running behind Barney yelling “CITIZENS ARREST…CITIZENS ARREST CITIZENS ARREST!!!!!” It made me LOL. I can see where the thought of carrying handcuffs might seem like a good idea. I have used them in the past both in corrections and EMS, Supertac45 is correct it’s not fun. Trying to cuff someone is dangerous. Even when you are trained to properly apply them, you open yourself up to a physical confrontation. Also you can cause harm to a person’s wrist / hands during application. This could open you up for liability. I have no intent of taking anyone into custody or detaining them so I have no reason to carry them. __________________ I am not saying that President Obama is a crook, but he can’t swing a dead cat without hitting one! Chicago politics have finally made it to the white house.

August 31st, 2009, 03:39 AM	#7
tbrenke Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arlington, WA Posts: 541	never have and never would. there is never a situation that I would need them in. I will never arest someone. If I was in fear of my life I would shoot to stop the threat. doing a citacens arest is a can of worms that I never feel the need to open. __________________ "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution, which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." -1792, James Madison There are always too many Democratic, Republican and never enough U.S. congressmen.

August 31st, 2009, 03:12 AM	#6
J Bowen Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Southern USA Posts: 371	maybe a good item to have in your bedroom but wouldnt carry handcuffs around. Would take up limited room anyway you could carry a extra mag, flashlight, knife, or pepper spray instead

August 31st, 2009, 03:51 AM	#8
TerriLi Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 829	Unless I was giving someone a gift of handcuffs I wouldn't have them on me. Its a can of worms, best leave them at home or in the store. __________________ I know not what this "overkill" means.

August 31st, 2009, 08:25 AM	#9
rstickle Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Laurel, MD Posts: 12,741	In a word, HELL NO! Oh, wait that's two words... __________________ Rick EOD - Initial success or total failure

August 31st, 2009, 08:30 AM	#10
Pikachu711 VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,093	As a security guard who's has been certified to carry handcuffs in the past I don't carry them with me while not working. I may own them, but I prefer not to carry them while I'm not working all the same. __________________ "80 Million gun owners can't be wrong!" Glock 26 (9mm) Nevada CFP Holder NRA Member

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