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May 23rd, 2007, 08:21 PM
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Lee reloading dies
Has anyone used Lee deluxe rifle 3 die set for reloading 223 cases?They claim that case lube isn't needed,and increased case life.
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May 23rd, 2007, 08:46 PM
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Sorry about this post, I meant it to be in the ammunition and ballistic forum.
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May 23rd, 2007, 08:50 PM
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Case lube will allways extend case life , carbide dies may " not " need it , but imho its marketing .. lube your cases and go on .
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May 23rd, 2007, 09:06 PM
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All rifle sizer dies that are carbide STILL need to be lubed.
The reason is that the tapered case enters into a tapered die and a taper on a taper can provide a very secure mechanical lock. The lube "breaks" this lock and it does it without tearing off the rims of the cases. The carbide, being extremely hard, will not scratch or etch as easily as a hardened carbon steel die and its true that it will last much longer with less case marking, but you still have the taper on the taper that is not so easily broken. Pretty much anyone that has reloaded for any period of time has ripped a rim off of the case and got the rest of the case stuck in the die at one time or another because they forgot to lube the die. On pistol cartridges, most of them are straight so its not necessary to lube when using carbide. With rifle dies, you might get away with it or you might not. The one time that you dont will be a major pain in the tail.
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May 23rd, 2007, 09:27 PM
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you need to use lube witht he lee or it sitcjs the case
matter of fact the set i had even with lube stuck the cases a lot went to rcbs never a problem since |
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May 23rd, 2007, 09:41 PM
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Hot Guns is right - and I also even with tungsten dies still lube large long cases like 45-70.
Hornady 'One Shot' I find very useful as it is low residue.
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May 24th, 2007, 12:21 AM
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Thanks for the info,I'll stick with my Dillon Dies.
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