Go Back   DefensiveCarry Concealed Carry Forum > Carry Discussion > Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics > Reloading
Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Forum Donations DefensiveCarry Store DefensiveCarry Gallery USGO Gallery Related Links Forum Help & Extras

Reloading DefensiveCarry.com accepts no liability for reloading information posted by members. It is down to the individual posting to ensure safe standards and to readers to verify what they read - it is they finally who bear responsibility for useage of information. Remember - typos can occur!
We strongly recommend that in most cases quoted loads be derived from recognized loading manuals and if possible these should be referenced. Where loads do not have back-up reference data available, for instance with use of an unusual powder, then posters are asked to please detail their method for establishing their data. Irresponsible publishing of unsubstantiated ''guestimated'' data is deprecated and may be heavily moderated.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old January 8th, 2008, 04:06 PM   #1
Assistant Administrator
 
P95Carry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: South West PA
Posts: 25,366
P95Carry is a forum contributor
Reloading - art or science?

Guy dropped by earlier today - he is planning to start reloading and asked - "is it an art or a science"... made me think!

On balance it's a science IMO - based on chemistry and physics of course. However on reflection I can see some ''art'' aspect too, with regard to how we individually apply that science.

Classic example might be the ''tuning'' of a load to a specific firearm - rifles generally for most part, where this ''art'' I think comes in. Much of this is experience in the end, plus some good 'ol trial and error.

Appliance of science ....... fun ain't it
__________________
Chris - P95
NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member.

"To own a gun and assume that you are armed
is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!."


If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug
P95Carry is offline  
Old January 8th, 2008, 04:07 PM   #2
Distinguished Member
 
Chooie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,531
Chooie is a forum contributor
You use artistry and attention to detail to ensure your scientific processes are executed with precision.

It's both!
__________________
-Joe

Quando omni flunkus, moritati.

Virginia Citizens Defense League

Rustburg, VA Volunteer Rescue Squad
Chooie is offline  
Old January 8th, 2008, 04:29 PM   #3
VIP Member
 
Ram Rod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: crawford county, arkansas
Posts: 5,206
Ram Rod is a forum contributor
Reloading is a science. An artistic aspect of that science would be someone who creates wildcat cartridges and builds rifles to fire them in. Reloading is a trade---sort of like a blacksmith or farrier. If reloaders and reloading ever subside in practice----folks will speak in terms of it as being a dying art.
__________________
RamRod-----sans remords
Ram Rod is offline  
Old January 8th, 2008, 05:20 PM   #4
Distinguished Member
 
Tubby45's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: In the reloading room
Posts: 1,988
Tubby45
Science is putting a primer in the pocket, powder in the case, slamming a bullet on top.

Art is testing all available components, all available variables, to achieve the ragged hole group, then replicating that over and over and over again.

It is part both. Any fool can load a cartridge. It takes an artist to make it safe and accurate.
Tubby45 is offline  
Old January 8th, 2008, 07:10 PM   #5
Distinguished Member
 
Sheldon J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Battle Creek, Mi.
Posts: 1,686
Sheldon J
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by P95Carry View Post
"is it an art or a science"...

On balance it's a science IMO - based on chemistry and physics of course.
Yeah but there is noting much grander to look at than a properly polished case with a bright shiny bullet on top, and that my friend is a pure work of art.
__________________
"The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century
Sheldon J is offline  
Old January 8th, 2008, 07:20 PM   #6
Assistant Administrator
 
P95Carry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: South West PA
Posts: 25,366
P95Carry is a forum contributor
Quote:
a properly polished case with a bright shiny bullet on top, and that my friend is a pure work of art.
Yep - that does enter the art field, the ''after-the-science'' bit! - and here's my ''hot'' () .454 load with 300 grain XTP ......


__________________
Chris - P95
NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member.

"To own a gun and assume that you are armed
is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!."


If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug
P95Carry is offline  
Old January 8th, 2008, 07:22 PM   #7
Distinguished Member
 
friesepferd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: what used to be the state of Franklin (look it up)
Posts: 1,719
friesepferd
you do tests and adjust variables to get the best outcome of a product.
thats what i call science
friesepferd is offline  
Old January 8th, 2008, 07:30 PM   #8
Distinguished Member
 
aus71383's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: United States
Posts: 1,696
aus71383 is a forum contributor
I think, like many things, "Its what you make of it." If you appreciate artfully crafting handloads - then its art. If you appreciate scientifically preparing handloads - then its science.

Austin
aus71383 is offline  
Old January 8th, 2008, 07:55 PM   #9
Member
 
Danger Mouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Cumberland, VA
Posts: 362
Danger Mouse
IMO? Art, definatly, I take time with my Dillon 550 and check every 20th round, rechecking OAL, crimp, and powder to assure all loads are the same
__________________
Think twice
Buy once!
Danger Mouse is offline  
Old January 8th, 2008, 09:16 PM   #10
Member
 
DMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 332
DMan
It is a science, but the art is just knowing (without scientific evidence) of what will shoot good, and how it will feel. Knowing that different powders respond differently depending on the load, the gun, the bullet weight etc is an art - unless you have scientific data to back up that "gut feeling" you have when one creates a new load.

Reloading is the art of applying science.
__________________
If guns cause crime, then forks made Rosie O'Donnell fat!!

Rosie - Say bye bye: You aren't much of a View anymore! Your true colors have been shown, and they are not Red, White, and Blue!
DMan is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:48 AM.


bestBest selection of rifle scopes, holsters, belts, pouches, gun accessories, gun cases, dry boxes, flashlights, night vision, binoculars, sunglasses. Information and 1000's of military, law enforcement, tactical gear from OpticsPlanet and Tactical Store w/ FREE UPS! Top brands - 5.11, Bianchi, BlackHawk, Bushnell, EOT ech, Leupold, Pelican, Galco, Fobus, Safariland, Steiner, StreamLight, SureFire, Nikon, Trijicon, UnderArmour, Uncle Mike's, Wiley X,

Hosted ByTranquil Hosting

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright DefensiveCarry.com © 2004-2008