*Jay*

Hi all,

Just getting into reloading and I am getting a little confused so here I go.

Been researching how I will load 40S&W with 180gr copper plated bullets but I cant find anything for TITEGROUP with plated bullets. They list that powder with 180gr XTP bullets on the Hogdon website and in my Lee Modern Reloading Manual. They also list a variety of other powders but not TITEGROUP for plated bullets in the same manual.

My first question is can I use TITEGROUP safely with plated bullets using the load data for the XTP bullet both being 180gr???

I have been doing alot of reading in my Lee manual and have not come across an answer for this yet. I do understand that there is an effect with fast/slow burning powders in relation to the bullets "Hardness".

My second question is are the plated bullets be too "Soft" to compare to the XTP's the load data is listed for??? Thanks in advance.

Miggy

I've been using the FMJ Data for my rainiers and I have not had any problems. Then again I don't go near the max loads

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friesepferd

dont bother looking for loads that are specifically for plated.
rainer suggest you either use lead loads or take loads for FMJ and reduce powder by 10%.

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aus71383

There is data for Rainier bullets - not sure off the top of my head - maybe Vihtavuori (sp?) has it. Jacketed bullets create higher pressures (more friction) than lead - plated bullets are basically lead bullets. IIRC Rainier says to use lead bullet data for their bullets. I would feel safe using jacketed data with plated bullets - just keep an eye on velocity and pressure signs as you work up the loads.

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Ghuqu2

Can you use plated bullets in poly rifled barrels?

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P95Carry

I wouldn't treat them as other than lead bullets .. it's all down IMO to obturation or lack of it and bullet deformation abilities within the polygonal pattern rifling.

Best is to get an after market regular rifled barrel to use to allow safe use of lead bullets - keep poly for jackets only.

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Tubby45

Accurate has loads for Rainier bullets, but either use lead data or jacketed and work up from minimum charge.

Yes. There is no issue here.

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P95Carry

Honestly? I really didn't think any lead based was good for poly barrels. Not that I have any.

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Tubby45

Plated is perfectly fine for poly barrels as there is no exposed lead to build up. The copper plating is hard enough to protect the lead core from coming in contact with the bore itself.

Naked lead bullets are the caution, but plated or jacketed lead is a nonissue since the plating or jacket protects the lead from contacting the bore. In essence, if you can shoot jacketed, you can shoot lead. FWIW, Speer Gold Dot bullets are plated bullets. They are not jacketed.

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