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Old February 11th, 2008, 01:05 AM   #1
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Took an NRA basic reloading class / I need a straight answer about resizing

First things first.

I took an NRA Basic Metallic Cartridge Reloading class the other day. It was great. Most things I allready knew, but it helped a lot in dispelling some myths that I thought were the way to reload. It also provided a very basic foundation of reloading knowledge that I just wasn't quite grasping from reading and asking other's opinions. The instructor was great, and he didn't impose his view on reloading techniques unless you asked him his opinion on something.

I couldn't have been happier with the class, and now going back and rereading a lot of things and even postings here I don't feel like I am reading it half written in chinese.

So now to my other question.

It came up in class about the belly bulging problem in pistol auto cartridges. One guy piped up and said "Oh yea, you gotta watch out for that Glock brass." The instructer corrected him and said it can be a problem from other guns also. I asked him how to correct it and he showed me his roll sizer and told me that he runs all of his auto cartridges through it first before reloading and that my Dillon press can't reach down far enough to size that belly bulge out.

It made sense, but a roll sizer is not a cheap tool to purchase. I have read some references that say that Lee dies will take care of that bulge.

What are your thoughts and experience on this? I need some straight talk on the subject.

Thanks.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 09:57 AM   #2
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I f I has some brass that was bulged I suppose I would have to try it the "old" way, and if that didnt work the bulged brass would go to the scrap yard. Secondly--there is a possibility that the brass is weakened somewhat and it might be dangerous to fire again.

One of the first things my reloading mentor impressed upon me was-"when in doubt . throw it out"!!!!!!
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that my Dillon press can't reach down far enough to size that belly bulge out.
Complete udder BS! People that make comments like this don't own or never used a Dillon press.

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It made sense, but a roll sizer is not a cheap tool to purchase. I have read some references that say that Lee dies will take care of that bulge.
The Lee factory crimp die is probably what they are referencing. This die post sizes the case as it applies the crimp to the case mouth. This is to make sure your round will feed. What he is doing is overcomplicating a simple operation.

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The best way to handle buldged brass is simply to full length size completely. This is done by adjusting the die into the toolhead enough so that when the shellplate is at the top of the stroke, the bottom of the sizing die should touch the plate. No special dies are needed. That is BS.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 10:28 AM   #4
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Complete udder BS!
'Udder' BS!!That is pure genius wording!! HILARIOUS!!



(wait...you did intend to replace 'utter' with 'udder' right?)

Kidding with you, Tubby. I learn much from posts like this. Thanks.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 01:07 PM   #5
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Glad you caught it.
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Thanks for the info Tubby. That was what I was wanting to know. Udderly perfect.
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full length size completely all brass. i pickup 40 s&w brass after each "q" day at the range. we all shoot glock 40's. the brass will have the bulge. my rcbs die at stage one in the dillon 550 takes care of it. i full length size completely all brass,,pistol and rifle.
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The Dillon resize die works fine too. I reload for my buddy who shoots a .40 cal. Glock
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So then is the whole thing that was said to me a myth? Or is their a problem with maybe using a carbide die since those have a gap at the base?
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I heard the EGW resizer die goes down further than the Dillon die to make sure the case gets fully sized. I also called Dillon and he said their dies do not go down all the way. I have had some problems with reloaded bullets in the 40 S&W that would fte.
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