reloading the .223

johnnyrigger · March 23rd, 2008, 01:11 AM

I was looking on Barns Bullets and I did not see any thing for .223. But i did see bullets for the .224, can i use the .224 in my .223?

thanks Johnny

HotGuns · March 23rd, 2008, 01:59 AM

.224 is .223.

Most bullets are actually larger than the caliber states. For instance, most ..357 is actually .358, most .30 calibers are .308, the list goes on and on.

johnnyrigger · March 23rd, 2008, 05:10 AM

hmmm I did not know that...

Ram Rod · March 23rd, 2008, 05:10 AM

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.224 is .223.

Exactly----I use the same for my 22-250. That's just the way it is. I don't think you'll find .223 bullets. I have some Barnes VLC coated I believe. Those blue tips sure look nice sticking out of a nickel plated case! They shoot well too. .224 is .223---that's why you see groves from the rifling on fired bullets.

HotGuns · March 23rd, 2008, 07:03 AM

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hmmm I did not know that...

Yep...it dosent stop there either.
American designations show no rhyme or reason.

For instance, the mighty .44 Magnum actually uses a .429 dia. bullet.

Most .32 calibers are actually closer to .31 caliber. The .45 acp normally uses bullets that are .451, yet the .45 Colt uses bullets that are .454.

9MM bullets are .355, but can be used in .38 or .357. I've actually done that and they shot very well.

The 7.62 x 39 mm rifle uses bullets that are .312, yet the 7.62 x51 uses .308.
but both are considered .30 cals.

The .444 Marlin uses .44 magnum bullets which are 429. When most guns are shooting cast lead bullets, they are usaully sized bigger such as .430 for the .44 or .452 for the .45ACP.

and there are a multitude of examples...

One of the reasons why is important to understand exactly what you are reloading.

Jeff F · March 23rd, 2008, 10:49 AM

You can get bullets in .223 diameter, but these are for the 22 Hornet. It was originally designed with a bore diameter of .223. There are others that have varying bore diameters that are mostly now obsolete cartridges. 22 Jet was .222 as an example. All modern .22 cartridges have a standardized bore of .224 now.

johnnyrigger · March 23rd, 2008, 03:16 PM

were do you guys find all this info??

cvhoss · March 23rd, 2008, 05:38 PM

Johnny,
Are you currently a reloader or just looking into starting? If you are currently a reloader, where are you getting load data from? I believe every good load manual I have (Sierra, Hodgdon, Speer, Hornady, Lyman, Oregon
Trail) list bullet diameter for any given cartridge as part of the data. Some of the powder manufacturers I've checked that provide data on the internet, Hodgdon (Hodgdon/IMR/Winchester) & Accurate Arms do list bullet diameter but Ramshot, Alliant & Vihtavuori do not. Wikipedia has a decent page that lists bullets and then the calibers and other information.

Hoss

johnnyrigger · March 27th, 2008, 02:38 AM

I reload. I have a speer, and a Lyman. I am new to reloading... less than 600 rounds made.

threefeathers · May 3rd, 2008, 02:12 PM

Hi, I've been reloading for 30 years and have several threads on experimentation on AR15.com and American Backyard Forum. I urge you to get a good reloaders handbook, let me recommend the latest Speer eidtion. (I get all of the every 3 years)
Then go to a specific reloaders forum, ammoguide.com, the handloadersnest.com, stevesreloadingpages.com, and read, read, read.

March 23rd, 2008, 01:11 AM	#1
johnnyrigger Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Richardson,Alaska Posts: 144	reloading the .223 I was looking on Barns Bullets and I did not see any thing for .223. But i did see bullets for the .224, can i use the .224 in my .223? thanks Johnny

March 23rd, 2008, 01:59 AM	#2
HotGuns VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 4,083	.224 is .223. Most bullets are actually larger than the caliber states. For instance, most ..357 is actually .358, most .30 calibers are .308, the list goes on and on. __________________ AR. CHL Instr. If you carry a gun for protection, then learn to shoot like your LIFE depends on it, because some day it might.

March 23rd, 2008, 10:49 AM	#6
Jeff F Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: South Central Wyoming Posts: 137	You can get bullets in .223 diameter, but these are for the 22 Hornet. It was originally designed with a bore diameter of .223. There are others that have varying bore diameters that are mostly now obsolete cartridges. 22 Jet was .222 as an example. All modern .22 cartridges have a standardized bore of .224 now. __________________ "Those who would give up essential liberties for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" -Benjamin Franklin-

March 23rd, 2008, 05:38 PM	#8
cvhoss Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 528	Johnny, Are you currently a reloader or just looking into starting? If you are currently a reloader, where are you getting load data from? I believe every good load manual I have (Sierra, Hodgdon, Speer, Hornady, Lyman, Oregon Trail) list bullet diameter for any given cartridge as part of the data. Some of the powder manufacturers I've checked that provide data on the internet, Hodgdon (Hodgdon/IMR/Winchester) & Accurate Arms do list bullet diameter but Ramshot, Alliant & Vihtavuori do not. Wikipedia has a decent page that lists bullets and then the calibers and other information. Hoss __________________ I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I always was Kahr PM-9 / Sig P-245 / Para NiteHawg / Walther PPK / Beretta Tomcat / Ruger LCP BDA 380 / Taurus 85 / Kel-Tec PF-9 / Am. Derringer 357 / Sig Sauer 239 SAS / Walther PPS .40 NRA Life Member My Web Site

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March 23rd, 2008, 05:10 AM	#3
johnnyrigger Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Richardson,Alaska Posts: 144	hmmm I did not know that...

March 23rd, 2008, 03:16 PM	#7
johnnyrigger Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Richardson,Alaska Posts: 144	were do you guys find all this info??

March 27th, 2008, 02:38 AM	#9
johnnyrigger Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Richardson,Alaska Posts: 144	I reload. I have a speer, and a Lyman. I am new to reloading... less than 600 rounds made.

May 3rd, 2008, 02:12 PM	#10
threefeathers Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 141	Hi, I've been reloading for 30 years and have several threads on experimentation on AR15.com and American Backyard Forum. I urge you to get a good reloaders handbook, let me recommend the latest Speer eidtion. (I get all of the every 3 years) Then go to a specific reloaders forum, ammoguide.com, the handloadersnest.com, stevesreloadingpages.com, and read, read, read.