Cost advantage of reloading... - Page 2

Tubby45 · March 27th, 2008, 12:33 AM

Where are you getting primers at $90/5K retail? I'm a licensed ammunition manufacturer and can't get restricted OEM primers (06/07 FFLs only) for that price besides small pistol and rifle (both CCI OEM).

cvhoss · March 27th, 2008, 12:38 AM

All this reloading talk is great, but I'm with Alfack.

Where are you getting 1000 45 brass for eighty bucks!

Come on and share with your friends.

Hoss

mousehunter · March 27th, 2008, 09:25 AM

I could be wrong, but think he might have been referring to once fired for 80 - that should not be that hard to find. brassmanbrass.com comes to mind 55-70/k for 45 acp (plus shipping).

I have read good reviews of the company, but have no personal experiance with them as of now - latter this week might be a different story.

Magilla82ABN · March 27th, 2008, 09:44 AM

How hard is it to get started in reloading? What are the basic parts for reloading .45 and .308? What press would best suit me?

Tubby45 · March 27th, 2008, 09:48 AM

Even $80/K for fired brass is expensive. When I have fired .45 brass it goes for $50/K shipped.

mousehunter · March 27th, 2008, 01:10 PM

How hard is it? That is not a quick question. A lot of people start reloading to get the most potential out of a rifle. That takes a scale, a caliper, a single stage press, a set of dies, some case prep tools (case trimmer, lube pad, lube, primer pocket cleaner, maybe a tumbler), a powder trickler, and a couple reloading manuals (please forgive me for stuff that is forgotten). Supplies would be brass (which you might have already collected), primers, powder, and bullets.

But you mentioned pistols. Single stage presses are not very fast, so then you are talking about progressive presses and shellplates in addition to most of the stuff above.

A very quick wag would be $300-$500 for single stage, $500-1000 for progressive (depending on the color of the press

). My press is red, some people like green, quite a few swear by blue. Understand that tons of the price is the accessories, and you have a range of price on most of them. I love my $100 tripple beam - but you might be fine with the one that cost $20. Likewise you might like a digital caliper (that costs $100, while I am using a $10 dial caliper.

As for easy, everyone and their dog appears to be getting into this right now and it is all but impossible to find a lot of the equipment in stock on the web (blue may be an exception).
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Also understand this one simple fact. Reloading will not save you 1 cent in ammo cost - you will simply shoot more.

fatboy97 · March 28th, 2008, 08:44 PM

I enjoy reloading. I started only 5-6 months ago, and I enjoy creating my own ammo, and enjoy shooting that ammo even more. Can I reload 500 rounds an hour with my 550B? Maybe if I had everything setup. Would I, no. I double check my powder loads at least every 100 rounds. Do I wish I had bought a different press? NO

Realistically, it takes time prepping brass (cleaning and inspecting), loading primer tubes, updating log files, and inspecting rounds after I am done.

SSDD · March 30th, 2008, 03:59 AM

Here is good place for OF brass and this guy ships promptly!
Once-Fired Brass

SSDD · March 30th, 2008, 04:00 AM

I get Wolf SP Primers for 90 per 5k OTD all the time, but Fed 150's are 128 per 5K OTD.

SSDD · March 30th, 2008, 04:07 AM

You guys are so off the mark with shooting and reloading! It is a hobby and it costs money!
I was just in Wally World
and I am sure that
45ACP WWB was nearly 30 per 100
40SW WWB was nearly 27 per 100
9mm WWB was nearly 18 per 100

If it is some thing that you enjoy then embrace it! Some people are just discovering reloading cause the cost of ammo has risen sharply in the last 24months.

I wonder how many people sit and figure a way to rationalize the various other hobbies people have?
Just like that 30K ski boat parked in the drive way! Or the snow mobile, 4x4, model train set ups, remote control cars, and any number of things. Man I hate to think what the TRUE cost per pound of venison is for some people? Way more then the best Black Angus Beef for sure. But, in the end if hunting is a way to relax and enjoy life's benefits then so be it!

March 27th, 2008, 12:33 AM	#11
Tubby45 Distinguished Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: In the reloading room Posts: 1,796	Where are you getting primers at $90/5K retail? I'm a licensed ammunition manufacturer and can't get restricted OEM primers (06/07 FFLs only) for that price besides small pistol and rifle (both CCI OEM). __________________ Freakshow Manufacturing LLC Licensed 07 FFL with Class II SOT pending California CFLC compliant

March 27th, 2008, 12:38 AM	#12
cvhoss Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 500	All this reloading talk is great, but I'm with Alfack. Where are you getting 1000 45 brass for eighty bucks! Come on and share with your friends. Hoss __________________ I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I always was Kahr PM-9 / Sig P-245 / Para NiteHawg / Walther PPK / Beretta Tomcat / Ruger LCP BDA 380 / Taurus 85 / Kel-Tec PF-9 / Am. Derringer 357 / Sig Sauer 239 SAS / Walther PPS .40 NRA Life Member My Web Site

March 27th, 2008, 09:44 AM	#14
Magilla82ABN Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bragg, NC----Knoxville, TN Posts: 313	How hard is it to get started in reloading? What are the basic parts for reloading .45 and .308? What press would best suit me? __________________ Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American GI. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom. Supporting hunting is not supporting the 2nd Amendment !

March 27th, 2008, 09:48 AM	#15
Tubby45 Distinguished Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: In the reloading room Posts: 1,796	Even $80/K for fired brass is expensive. When I have fired .45 brass it goes for $50/K shipped. __________________ Freakshow Manufacturing LLC Licensed 07 FFL with Class II SOT pending California CFLC compliant

March 28th, 2008, 08:44 PM	#17
fatboy97 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Land of 10k Lakes Posts: 690	I enjoy reloading. I started only 5-6 months ago, and I enjoy creating my own ammo, and enjoy shooting that ammo even more. Can I reload 500 rounds an hour with my 550B? Maybe if I had everything setup. Would I, no. I double check my powder loads at least every 100 rounds. Do I wish I had bought a different press? NO Realistically, it takes time prepping brass (cleaning and inspecting), loading primer tubes, updating log files, and inspecting rounds after I am done. __________________ Be Observant and Be Safe. Current Collection: Glock G26, G19, G23C, SIG P226-40 TT, and Ruger GP-100 Former Collection: Taurus 92SS, SIG P220 TT, S&W 360, SIG P239-40

March 27th, 2008, 09:25 AM	#13
mousehunter Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 123	I could be wrong, but think he might have been referring to once fired for 80 - that should not be that hard to find. brassmanbrass.com comes to mind 55-70/k for 45 acp (plus shipping). I have read good reviews of the company, but have no personal experiance with them as of now - latter this week might be a different story.

March 27th, 2008, 01:10 PM	#16
mousehunter Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 123	How hard is it? That is not a quick question. A lot of people start reloading to get the most potential out of a rifle. That takes a scale, a caliper, a single stage press, a set of dies, some case prep tools (case trimmer, lube pad, lube, primer pocket cleaner, maybe a tumbler), a powder trickler, and a couple reloading manuals (please forgive me for stuff that is forgotten). Supplies would be brass (which you might have already collected), primers, powder, and bullets. But you mentioned pistols. Single stage presses are not very fast, so then you are talking about progressive presses and shellplates in addition to most of the stuff above. A very quick wag would be $300-$500 for single stage, $500-1000 for progressive (depending on the color of the press ). My press is red, some people like green, quite a few swear by blue. Understand that tons of the price is the accessories, and you have a range of price on most of them. I love my $100 tripple beam - but you might be fine with the one that cost $20. Likewise you might like a digital caliper (that costs $100, while I am using a $10 dial caliper. As for easy, everyone and their dog appears to be getting into this right now and it is all but impossible to find a lot of the equipment in stock on the web (blue may be an exception). --- Also understand this one simple fact. Reloading will not save you 1 cent in ammo cost - you will simply shoot more.

March 30th, 2008, 03:59 AM	#18
SSDD New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: MN Posts: 9	Here is good place for OF brass and this guy ships promptly! Once-Fired Brass

March 30th, 2008, 04:00 AM	#19
SSDD New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: MN Posts: 9	I get Wolf SP Primers for 90 per 5k OTD all the time, but Fed 150's are 128 per 5K OTD.

March 30th, 2008, 04:07 AM	#20
SSDD New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: MN Posts: 9	You guys are so off the mark with shooting and reloading! It is a hobby and it costs money! I was just in Wally World and I am sure that 45ACP WWB was nearly 30 per 100 40SW WWB was nearly 27 per 100 9mm WWB was nearly 18 per 100 If it is some thing that you enjoy then embrace it! Some people are just discovering reloading cause the cost of ammo has risen sharply in the last 24months. I wonder how many people sit and figure a way to rationalize the various other hobbies people have? Just like that 30K ski boat parked in the drive way! Or the snow mobile, 4x4, model train set ups, remote control cars, and any number of things. Man I hate to think what the TRUE cost per pound of venison is for some people? Way more then the best Black Angus Beef for sure. But, in the end if hunting is a way to relax and enjoy life's benefits then so be it!

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