Chart for Reloading Costs - Page 4

FearSheeple · March 30th, 2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by P95Carry

Unless your time is so tight that you can't make the odd hour in an evening .... you should be able to manage the time aspect ...... plus too there is the ability you'd have to produce the ideal ammo for your gun/purpose.

It has to be viewed IMO as a long term proposition, and unless you are as ancient as me I'll assume your ''payback time'' will be plenty! I also do not feel it is all entirely about savings - well not only.

The independence is a biggie such that if you have a stock of consumables and brass, you can in essence get to it any old time if you run low or supplies are difficult.

Good points. I am 23 so I guess i'm looking at more than a few years worth of savings (how i tend to look at most things/purchases I make)

As ammo costs go up, do the reloading components tend to go up the same amount or percentage?

cvhoss · March 30th, 2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by edr9x23super

Some differences of opinion about the Dillon 550:

I have one, and the price you list includes everything, the dies, the powder measure etc. I checked on the website.

From Dillon's Web Site:

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The basic 550 includes:

* Machine with caliber conversion kit (shellplate, locator buttons, powder funnel) in the caliber of your choice.
* Powder measure with standard large and small powder bars (small installed), Small bar throws from 2.1 to 15 grains of powder Large bar throws up to 55 to 60 grains of powder.
* One prime system with large and small priming parts.
* One large and one small pick up tube
* One toolhead
* One powder die
* One loaded cartridge catch bin
* One written instruction manual
* One set of standard Allen wrenches

No dies are included.

It contains the caliber conversion kit (shellplate, locator buttons, powder funnel) but NO DIES. As far as the powder measure, if you read all of the posts on this thread, you'll notice that was already pointed out and I explained my mistake on that part.

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Originally Posted by edr9x23super

As far as the dies not being as reliable, or loading rounds of questionable quality is pure hogwash. yes, they manufacture them differently to make progressive loading easier, but they still size the rounds just like everybody else's equipment does.

I actually never said that they "loaded rounds of questionable quality". What I did say about them isn't hogwash and I stand behind it. Dillon dies have a radiused mouth to facilitate ease of use on a progressive machine. In that respect, they work great. The fact that they cannot size as far down a case as other dies is simply mechanics. The travel of any die is limited by the contact of the die mouth with the shell plate. The mechanics of this mandates that since the sizing ring of a Dillon die has a radius, it cannot size as far down a case as another die that does not have the radius. I know several people that have excellent luck with Dillon dies despite this fact. I also know people who have had problems because of it. Because of the cost involved for a set of dies, I won't recommend them simply because while they may work fine in a given situation, if they don't work you've waisted the cost of the dies.

Don't get me wrong -- I think Dillon makes the finest reloading equipment available (with the exception of their digital scale, but that's another story) but I simply don't recommend their pistol dies for the reasons I've stated.

Hoss

Super Trucker · March 31st, 2008, 11:22 AM

Thanks for the chart.

Marked for future reference.

4my son · March 31st, 2008, 01:42 PM

Thanks a ton for the chart,

One other aspect of reloading I like is in a SHTF time, if needed, you can cannibalize some rounds for the components to load others you might have a gun better suited for the situation. If most of what you have is reloaded ammo, you know exactly what you have to work with. Or you can maximize the available components to fit the gun/situation that is present.

Just my .02

cracker · May 11th, 2008, 10:05 AM

Your initial outlay for the press, scale, dies, is a 1 time expense depreciated over the lifetime of use. Your actual reloading costs should include the bullet, powder, and primer prices. Your brass cost is even a 1 or 2 time outlay depending upon how you get it. I have gotten so much free brass at ranges when I sweep up mine, I'll never have to buy any more. Incidently, I have been reloading the same 45 acp brass since 1986 and 10mm brass since the early 1990's. You just need to clean and inspect after every use. You can never be to thorough in the reloading process. I would consider the Hornady Pro-Jector LnL or the Dillon 650 if you are looking for a progressive. They both have 5 stages vice 4 for most of the others. Both are excellent. Below is a link for actual load costs that I use. It costs me about $6.25 for 50rds of 10mm vice $18 in the store.

Handloading Cost Calculator

March 31st, 2008, 01:42 PM	#34
4my son Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Out side of Richmond, VA Posts: 1,404	Thanks a ton for the chart, One other aspect of reloading I like is in a SHTF time, if needed, you can cannibalize some rounds for the components to load others you might have a gun better suited for the situation. If most of what you have is reloaded ammo, you know exactly what you have to work with. Or you can maximize the available components to fit the gun/situation that is present. Just my .02 __________________ "fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen." [Warren v. District of Columbia,(D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)] If I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand

May 11th, 2008, 10:05 AM	#35
cracker New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Blaine,Minnesota Posts: 12	Reloading Your initial outlay for the press, scale, dies, is a 1 time expense depreciated over the lifetime of use. Your actual reloading costs should include the bullet, powder, and primer prices. Your brass cost is even a 1 or 2 time outlay depending upon how you get it. I have gotten so much free brass at ranges when I sweep up mine, I'll never have to buy any more. Incidently, I have been reloading the same 45 acp brass since 1986 and 10mm brass since the early 1990's. You just need to clean and inspect after every use. You can never be to thorough in the reloading process. I would consider the Hornady Pro-Jector LnL or the Dillon 650 if you are looking for a progressive. They both have 5 stages vice 4 for most of the others. Both are excellent. Below is a link for actual load costs that I use. It costs me about $6.25 for 50rds of 10mm vice $18 in the store. Handloading Cost Calculator __________________ Colt Delta Elite Gold Cup Enhanced 10mm S&W 1006 S&W 1076 EAA Witness 10mm EAA Witness Elite "Stock" 10mm DW Patriot CBOB 10mm AMT Javelina 10mm Kimber Tactical Pro II 45ACP EAA Witness 45acp EAA Witness Elite "Stock" 45acp Auto Ordinance Enhanced 45acp

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March 31st, 2008, 11:22 AM	#33
Super Trucker Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: S.E. Michigan Posts: 247	Thanks for the chart. Marked for future reference.