Cupcake

So I was looking at lee dies for the .223. It appears to be a 3 die set, and includes a:

1. bullet seating/crimp die
2. resizer/deprimer
3. factory crimp
That seems to be missing the expander/powder-through charging die that my pistol calibers have. I'm using the lee classic turret. Is there a powder through die that I have to buy separately? I don't see it. Am I being an idiot?

MidwayUSA - Lee Pacesetter 3-Die Set 223 Remington

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farronwolf

No, the Pacesetters don't have the option for a charging stage. It looks like you will need to charge by hand. If I understand correctly the way depriming pin works, it also does the neck expansion to allow you to place the lead in.

Here is a link to the Lee website. It appears that the Pacesetter are geared for hunting, at least that is what they are saying.

Lee Precision, Inc. Reloading Tools and Equipment: Rifle Dies

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HotGuns

It depends on the brand of the die.

Some have them and some dont.

The thru-the die powder dies were made popular by the progressives presses so that you could charge quickly and move on to the next step. It was easy, quick and accurate.

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dukalmighty

you have to buy a universal rifle charging die your powder measure screws on top of and if you only have a 3 hole turret then won't use the factory crimp die if you have a 4 hole turret then you can use all the dies

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Cupcake

Thanks. Made it out to cabelas yesterday, they had the rile charging die as well as almost everything else we needed. I still have to order a micro-powder measuring disk, but that's probably not important until I want to get precise with the loads. Right now I just want to make them go bang.

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