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Location: North Carolina
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What about Lyman?? I've found two different kits that look very similar. The CRUSHER EXPERT DELUXE RELOADING KIT and the T-MAG EXPERT DELUXE RELOADING KIT. Does anyone know the difference? Opinions on Lymans? They are a bit more expensive than the ones at Midway but what about quality??
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Also, what about a tumbler??? Are they worth the cost?
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And another, realistically, how many times can one reuse brass?
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Location: upstate new york
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The Lyman Crusher and T-Mag look great. But to me a little overpriced. If you want a single stage (like crusher) you can find an RCBS or LEE complete kit for a good bit less. The same goes for the turret presses. A single stage is a press that holds only one die at a time. You set the die and do all your brass then change to the next die and perform the next step. Turrets keep several dies set up on a disk and when you want to go to the next reloading step you just index the turret (disk) to the next die. I can change from one die to the next (single stage) in a minute and if reloading the same bullet as before the die is already adjusted (locked in place with a set screw) and ready to go.
I have used RCBS and Lee (single stage presses) for many years and have reloaded many different rifle and pistol rounds with them. Never had a problem as far as strength or durability with either. I tumble all my brass before reloading. Keeps me and my reloading equipment a lot cleaner. It gets off all the powder residue, inside and outside of your brass and gives it a polished look. I reloaded rifle brass several times until it starts to stretch out or crack (necked down cartridges more so than straight walled), but with pistol brass I have reloaded it many times and for the most part I have never noticed any need to trim it. In fact sometimnes I think it actually shrinks to a degree. I stay within the recommended loads in my handbooks and tend to stay at the low levels. I reload for practice ammo and carry manufactured rounds for SD. My practice rounds have been worked out to give me the same feel as the manufactured rounds and if I stagger a cyclinder or magazine with both I can only see the difference (muzzle flash-smoke), the felt recoil and whrere they hit the target are the same. bosco |
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Location: West Melbourne, Fl.
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Like it was said before it depends on how much and how fast you want to make ammo. I bought a Dillon RL450 progressive press when they first came out, I think it was back in the early 80's. It is still going strong. I just reload .45ACP. The newer models have a changeable die head to reload different calibers.
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Location: Maryland
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I went for the high-end intro to reloading. My g/f got me a Dillon RL-550B for my birthday last summer, and I put a chunk of money into various of the optional add-ons and accessories. Starting point was to reload just .45ACP because we both shoot primarily that caliber for IDPA competition.
All told, start-up costs were somewhere in the $1000 to $1100 range for a progressive setup, but that was a conscious choice, not a requirement. With range brass (I had been saving my .45 brass for a year before I started rolling my own), I load 100 rounds for about $16. That is about half of what I would have to spend for my preferred practice ammo from Georgia Arms. That means I make up the initial investment in about 6500 rounds. Well, I started loading right after Christmas and have run about 4000 rounds now, so I am well on pace to make up the initial cost by the end of this year. This represents about the same rate of shooting as we had last year, so I am not losing the savings by shooting more. I load about 200 rounds an hour, but can push that closer to 300 if I really focus---that is, when I mean to load 300 in minimum time, not that I can maintain 300/hr for a long time. I just started reloading 9mm and that runs me about $13 per 100; not as much of a cost savings as the .45ACP, but still not bad. Coming soon will be much smaller quantities of .40S&W, .38Spl, and .357. I also have brass cased ammo for the AR-15 I am putting together, so I expect to reload rifle eventually with this setup, too. I'll be happy to help if you have any questions about a progressive style setup. Good luck!
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Location: texas
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The problem with reloading right now is finding powder and primers that they don't want an arm and 2 legs for.I bought primers at $19.00 to $20.00 1000,I cast my own bullets from scrap lead wheel weights,I have hundreds of pounds of range brass,my reloads in almost every handgun calibre I reload costs me about $5.00 to $6.00 100 rounds.Your cost will depend on how much your components cost.I have over $3000.00 in reloading/bullet casting equipment and it paid for itself in the first year
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Location: North Carolina
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I've just started to get into casting myself. I bought some basic equipment, a Lee pot, a 2-cavity mold, a dipper, etc. I just cast my first bullets yesterday. I shot them today and it went well. I enjoyed the casting, so I suppose I have yet another hobby to take up my time.
I cast my bullets yesterday from wheel weight ingots I bought on ebay. I wanted to make sure casting was for me, and for $20/20 pounds of ingots I figured it would be worth the investment to find out. Well, time to start scrounging for scrap lead. Luckily my wife works in marketing for a car dealership, and she scored me two 5 gallon buckets of weights, and I got another full bucket locally. Now I have to get my stuff together for smelting I suppose. The LP pimers I am using cost me about $22/1000, and $12 of powder will do 1000 rounds of .45 ACP, so not counting my time (which I don't, since I enjoy the whole process and I couldn't spend the time working instead even if I wanted to, my job doesn't work that way), I'm looking at about $34 for 1000 rounds using free range pickup brass. Not too shabby.
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Location: The western edge of The Confederacy
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Your questions are hard to answer because there are so many variables. As far as equipment goes, you could start with a hand press and a set of dies with some basic components for about $75.00. This would turn out shootable ammo. Likewise, you could spring for a progressive press, tumbler, trimmer, carbide dies, top of the line components for $1000.00 and load match grade ammo. Or you could fall anywhere in between. Alot depends on whether you want to load in bulk or just a few. Load target ammo or plinking ammo. I would recommend buying a good manual first, study it thoroughly and see just where you fit in. Myself, after reloading over 30 years I still use a single stage press. I trim and polish my brass but nothing else out of the ordinary. My ammo is for plinking. I do like accurate ammo, but I'm not trying for 1" groups @100 yards. It all depends on who you are.
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Location: Missouri
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I reloaded with a friend who had a workshop devoted to the hobby. I found that the ammo smoked way too much, especially for indoor ranges. Also, I carry a Glock, so you cannot use regular lead bullets or you run the risk of lead building up in the barrel. I only shot reloads with my revolver for this reason. For me, it is just too much easier to buy ammo than to reload.
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