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llred · August 17th, 2009, 12:15 PM

UPDATE:

Went shopping sat and picked up some goodies. .45 acp & .38/.357 RCBS carbide dies, .45 acp brass, digital calipers, bullet puller, bullets for both .357 and .45acp. Only thing I couldn't find is the #6 shell holder for .357 mags.

Also have my bench framed out, going to put the counter top on tonight.

Majorlk · August 17th, 2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by llred

UPDATE:

Went shopping sat and picked up some goodies. .45 acp & .38/.357 RCBS carbide dies, .45 acp brass, digital calipers, bullet puller, bullets for both .357 and .45acp. Only thing I couldn't find is the #6 shell holder for .357 mags.

Also have my bench framed out, going to put the counter top on tonight.

Congratulations on the successful (except for the shell holder) shopping trip.

cvhoss · August 17th, 2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by llred

UPDATE:

Went shopping sat and picked up some goodies. .45 acp & .38/.357 RCBS carbide dies, .45 acp brass, digital calipers, bullet puller, bullets for both .357 and .45acp. Only thing I couldn't find is the #6 shell holder for .357 mags.

Also have my bench framed out, going to put the counter top on tonight.

I found a long time ago that buying one of these sets saves a lot of headaches.

Hoss

llred · August 18th, 2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cvhoss

I found a long time ago that buying one of these sets saves a lot of headaches.

Hoss

They had two universal sets at BPS, one was a lee and one was the Lyman you showed. What sucked was both had 2-3 shell holders missing from them. I will pick up one of these sets pretty soon. The reason I was trying get everything from BPS is because I had some gift cards from there.

6ppc30br · September 24th, 2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by llred

I saw that unique was used in the majority of pistol cartridges in the Lyman manual. I will try and pick up some. Atleast that will give me 2 powders to try and compare.

I have been using Unique in my Ruger Gp100 .357Mag it works fine but, it has to be the dirtiest powder around and on the jug it says cleaner burning, can't imagine what it used to be like.

dukalmighty · September 24th, 2009, 07:48 PM

I use unique for everything from 9mm to 44 magnum

alnitak · October 16th, 2009, 12:05 PM

A lot of people wil recommend Unique for most pistol application. However, I found AA#2 amd AA#5 to be more accurate and cleaner. I also use 2400 (particularly in my .44 mag), and although it is a "traditional" powder, I really don't like it much. It's dirty, doesn't burn completely, and has more recoil than other powders that generate the same fps results (I use AA#9 for my .44). Surprisingly, AA5% works really well in the .44 too, and I can download it for cowboy loads, which you can't do with 2400. I now tend to use AA#5 as my "one powder" for all pistol loads.

Freedomofchoice · October 23rd, 2009, 02:18 PM

Here is my recommendation. Since you are first starting to reload, I would recommend you use one of the slower burning powders. The reason is they are more forgiving than the faster burning powders. An accidental double charge of Bullseye will blow up most 38 ca. handguns, and since you use a relatively small amount, a double charge would not be readily visible in the case. A double charge of Unique would be near the top of the case and would be quite visible because you use a bigger charge to begin with; plus, being off + or - .01 or .02 is not going to be as critical with a slower powder.

coffeecup · October 29th, 2009, 10:53 AM

[QUOTE=alnitak; I also use 2400 (particularly in my .44 mag), and although it is a "traditional" powder, I really don't like it much. It's dirty, doesn't burn completely, and has more recoil than other powders that generate the same fps results .[/QUOTE]

So, Old Issac Newton ,(and his therories), have been proven FALSE???

I agree that slower burning powders will tend to leave behind more residue, with a few exceptions. But to state that recoil is less at the same velocity with a faster/slower powder is simply not so !

cvhoss · October 29th, 2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeecup

So, Old Issac Newton ,(and his therories), have been proven FALSE???

I agree that slower burning powders will tend to leave behind more residue, with a few exceptions. But to state that recoil is less at the same velocity with a faster/slower powder is simply not so !

Sorry, but you're wrong on this one. You'd be correct if bullet weight and velocity were the only factors in calculating recoil energy but they aren't. The weight of the powder charge must also be included. The chart below, created with the recoil calculator at Handloads.com shows the difference. The velocity I used was taken from the Sierra #5 manual using Unique and 2400. Both charge weights indicate a velocity of 1250 fps. Weight of the firearm is a S&W 6" 629. As you can see, free recoil energy for the Unique load (left) is 13.83 ft.lbs. while the 2400 load is 16.17 ft.lbs.

Hoss

September 24th, 2009, 07:48 PM	#26
dukalmighty VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: texas Posts: 6,386	I use unique for everything from 9mm to 44 magnum __________________ I like Poetry,Long Walks On The Beach,And Poking Dead Things With A Stick

October 23rd, 2009, 02:18 PM	#28
Freedomofchoice Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wesley Chapel, Florida Posts: 474	Here is my recommendation. Since you are first starting to reload, I would recommend you use one of the slower burning powders. The reason is they are more forgiving than the faster burning powders. An accidental double charge of Bullseye will blow up most 38 ca. handguns, and since you use a relatively small amount, a double charge would not be readily visible in the case. A double charge of Unique would be near the top of the case and would be quite visible because you use a bigger charge to begin with; plus, being off + or - .01 or .02 is not going to be as critical with a slower powder. __________________ Don't make it easy for a thief, secure your firearm when not in use!

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August 17th, 2009, 12:15 PM	#21
llred Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 278	UPDATE: Went shopping sat and picked up some goodies. .45 acp & .38/.357 RCBS carbide dies, .45 acp brass, digital calipers, bullet puller, bullets for both .357 and .45acp. Only thing I couldn't find is the #6 shell holder for .357 mags. Also have my bench framed out, going to put the counter top on tonight.

October 16th, 2009, 12:05 PM	#27
alnitak Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 258	A lot of people wil recommend Unique for most pistol application. However, I found AA#2 amd AA#5 to be more accurate and cleaner. I also use 2400 (particularly in my .44 mag), and although it is a "traditional" powder, I really don't like it much. It's dirty, doesn't burn completely, and has more recoil than other powders that generate the same fps results (I use AA#9 for my .44). Surprisingly, AA5% works really well in the .44 too, and I can download it for cowboy loads, which you can't do with 2400. I now tend to use AA#5 as my "one powder" for all pistol loads.

October 29th, 2009, 10:53 AM	#29
coffeecup Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cadiz,Ky Posts: 780	[QUOTE=alnitak; I also use 2400 (particularly in my .44 mag), and although it is a "traditional" powder, I really don't like it much. It's dirty, doesn't burn completely, and has more recoil than other powders that generate the same fps results .[/QUOTE] So, Old Issac Newton ,(and his therories), have been proven FALSE??? I agree that slower burning powders will tend to leave behind more residue, with a few exceptions. But to state that recoil is less at the same velocity with a faster/slower powder is simply not so !