Atlanta Arms and Ammo Reloads and G27 - Page 2

Majorlk · October 1st, 2009, 11:38 AM

I didn't mean to imply that Atlanta Arms and Georgia Arms were the same. Sorry if I gave that impression.

Most ammo (including factory-fresh) pushing the pressure limits will exhibit some bulging, to one degree or another, in semi-autos. This is due to the tolerance in the barrel. A barrel that leave part of the case head unsupported will exhibit it more in that one area.

The only reason I can think of why reloaded ammo would show more, is that it has already been fired and resized once. Virtually all of my reloading for my semi-autos has been mid-range loads for plinking, I haven't seen it in my two 9mm guns. I haven't started reloading for my .40S&W, so I don't know if it will show up there.

I have some 9mm cases that have been reloaded four or five times.

Tubby45 · October 5th, 2009, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biomortis

Also, I wonder if there are any laws being broken regarding not having any disclosure regarding that they are reloads.

Are you serious?

kazzaerexys · October 5th, 2009, 02:27 PM

Two regular Glock shooters at my IDPA club use nothing but AA 9mm. They've apparently never had problems with this. As a reloader, I find a lot of bulged brass on our range...and we have a lot of Glock shooters, in all calibers.

That's what Lee full-length resizing dies are for.

hogdaddy · October 5th, 2009, 02:32 PM

I won't order any more frome them & it's not the product it's the SERVICE!!

Biomortis · October 5th, 2009, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tubby45

Are you serious?

Serious as a heart attack Tubby. I can't sell an instrument to someone as brand new if its used so the fact that I was sold ammunition, in a professional printed box that had no labeling, marking, or notation of any kind, as well as the range not telling me they were reloads, really bothers me.

You want to sell me reloads? No problem, just tell me they are reloads, especially on a non-returnable product.

Tubby45 · October 17th, 2009, 10:44 AM

No, there are no laws being broken. If you are that anal about being informed, don't buy ammunition from anyone but the big guys who manufacture only new ammunition.

jca1 · October 17th, 2009, 11:35 AM

Some brand name stuff are reloads too right? Anyone know which ones?

Tubby45 · October 17th, 2009, 12:15 PM

Black Hills Blue, Georgia Arms is a mix, Ultramax, Miwall, HSM, and a host of smaller manufacturers such as my company.

PHB · October 17th, 2009, 01:14 PM

Simple rule load your own shoot your own I will not shoot reloads of others MHO

Be safe

Biomortis · October 17th, 2009, 04:06 PM

Really Tubby, I'm being anal? Easy scenario. Let's say I'm at the range shooting this Atlanta ammo and something completely unrelated to the ammo happens to my Glock 27. I send it back to Glock for service and they ask, "What brand ammo were you shooting in this?" and I innocently answer, "Atlanta Ammo and Arm" Their reply, "Ahhh, well those are known reloads and therefore your warranty is no longer valid"

You know what, fine, I'm anal, but about information. I like to be honestly and openly informed about the product I am buying. Not labeling them as reloads is a dishonest business practice.

October 1st, 2009, 11:38 AM	#11
Majorlk Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naugatuck, CT Posts: 839	I didn't mean to imply that Atlanta Arms and Georgia Arms were the same. Sorry if I gave that impression. Most ammo (including factory-fresh) pushing the pressure limits will exhibit some bulging, to one degree or another, in semi-autos. This is due to the tolerance in the barrel. A barrel that leave part of the case head unsupported will exhibit it more in that one area. The only reason I can think of why reloaded ammo would show more, is that it has already been fired and resized once. Virtually all of my reloading for my semi-autos has been mid-range loads for plinking, I haven't seen it in my two 9mm guns. I haven't started reloading for my .40S&W, so I don't know if it will show up there. I have some 9mm cases that have been reloaded four or five times. __________________ An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. - Robert A. Heinlein

October 5th, 2009, 02:27 PM	#13
kazzaerexys Distinguished Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,426	Two regular Glock shooters at my IDPA club use nothing but AA 9mm. They've apparently never had problems with this. As a reloader, I find a lot of bulged brass on our range...and we have a lot of Glock shooters, in all calibers. That's what Lee full-length resizing dies are for. __________________ “What is a moderate interpretation of [the Constitution]? Halfway between what it says and [...] what you want it to say?” —Justice Antonin Scalia SIG: P220R SS Elite SAO, P220R SAO, P220R Carry SRT, P226, P239 (.40S&W), P2022 (.40S&W); GSR 5", P6.

October 5th, 2009, 02:32 PM	#14
hogdaddy Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: N/E Florida Posts: 1,226	I won't order any more frome them & it's not the product it's the SERVICE!! __________________ WE SAY GRACE & WE SAY MAM IF YA AINT IN THE SOUTH WE DON'T GIVE A DAM / WE CAN SKIN A BUCK & RUN A TROUTE LINE & A COUNTRY BOY CAN (SURVIVE)>>HANK JR.

October 17th, 2009, 10:44 AM	#16
Tubby45 VIP Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Making suppressors Posts: 2,406	No, there are no laws being broken. If you are that anal about being informed, don't buy ammunition from anyone but the big guys who manufacture only new ammunition. __________________ Freakshow Manufacturing LLC Ammunition- Retail, Wholesale, Law Enforcement

October 17th, 2009, 11:35 AM	#17
jca1 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NC Posts: 274	Some brand name stuff are reloads too right? Anyone know which ones? __________________ If I gave a crap about what you think about my guns.....it was early this morning and I already flushed it! www.beautipage.com/shawnallen for all your ladies beauty control supplies. Check it out, great stuff for the woman in your life.

October 17th, 2009, 12:15 PM	#18
Tubby45 VIP Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Making suppressors Posts: 2,406	Black Hills Blue, Georgia Arms is a mix, Ultramax, Miwall, HSM, and a host of smaller manufacturers such as my company. __________________ Freakshow Manufacturing LLC Ammunition- Retail, Wholesale, Law Enforcement

October 17th, 2009, 01:14 PM	#19
PHB Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 29	Simple rule load your own shoot your own I will not shoot reloads of others MHO Be safe __________________ Freedom Is Not Free I Have Fought For It

October 17th, 2009, 04:06 PM	#20
Biomortis Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 96	Really Tubby, I'm being anal? Easy scenario. Let's say I'm at the range shooting this Atlanta ammo and something completely unrelated to the ammo happens to my Glock 27. I send it back to Glock for service and they ask, "What brand ammo were you shooting in this?" and I innocently answer, "Atlanta Ammo and Arm" Their reply, "Ahhh, well those are known reloads and therefore your warranty is no longer valid" You know what, fine, I'm anal, but about information. I like to be honestly and openly informed about the product I am buying. Not labeling them as reloads is a dishonest business practice. __________________ Glock 27 - 2009 Marlin Model 65 .22LR - 1968 Remington Model 31 16ga - 1932 Remington 1900 12ga - 1904

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