Wayne

This may sound bad, wrong, or just assinine but here are my thoughts:

I figure that my body, and anything upon my body, to be private property.

So, therefore, even though I am on private property, the firearm and anything else upon my body is on private property.

So therefore, I don't consider my having a firearm on their private property as disobeying thier signs due to the fact that my private property (firearm) is upon my private property (my body) which just happens to be on their private property.

I know that many here will think that I'm disrespecting the other persons private property but I am not, for the firearm is technically on my private property so therefore it is removed twice from their private property.

Hey, it's just my way of thinking. Some may disagree with me, but that is just the way I think about the subject.

Plus, it's concealed, what others don't know won't hurt them or cause them to freak out.

Wayne

robinsonre

I'm a big fan of the Nevada law....

There's no such thing as a private business "banning" concealed firearms. If they catch you they can ask you to leave, and you must or else be charged with trespassing, but you can't face any criminal charges for it.

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Double Naught Spy

No, we don't think you would be disrespecting our property. We think you would be violating another person's rights and technically, you would be breaking the law, technically, regardless of what you consider to be private property.

By your logic, you should be able to carry on planes, but that isn't the case.

SammyIamToday

Well said.

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GoodSamaritan

Absolutely we SHOULD be able to carry anywhere the general public, or paying customers are welcome. Unfortunately that is not the case.

PaulG

I think property rights DO trump the right to carry a gun. The Second Amendment is a protection against the government. It says that the government can’t disarm you. It doesn’t have anything to do with what you can do on another person’s property. I as an individual can required that you disarm to come onto my property.

Also, I think the difference between the rules related to your home and business is a small one. It doesn’t matter if you are a racists, sexist or whatever, you have the right to exclude ANYONE for ANY REASON from your home. It is your castle.

With a business, I believe that you should not be allowed to exclude people from your business property based on anything they cannot change. For example, people cannot change their ethnic group. To bar someone from your business because of skin color is wrong and I support laws to keep this from happening.

But for anything else, the owner should have the right to operate as he sees fit. I don’t like cigarette smoke and I won’t hang out at a restaurant or bar where there is smoking allowed. BUT, I fully support the right of the owner to decide if smoking is allowed. That should be his choice. Mine is whether I patronize the place.

Same thing with carrying a gun. If I am a rabid sheep who is scared to death of guns and I own a business, it should be my right to ban firearms from that business if I so choose. Besides, I don’t want to help anyone financially if they are anti gun so I want to know who bans guns. I won’t shop there.

But I will always support their right to decide the rules in place related to their own property.

Tubby45

Agreed.

Agreed.

Could there be a Libertarian here besides me???

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Wayne

Actually, it wasn't until the 1960's that you were allowed to carry on a plane.

Also, a plane is a bad example because it is like the postal service where the government is making the rules for the owners of the planes.

The last time that I flew it was by charter and the pilots didn't only not care (the word mind gives the wrong idea what I wanted to say) that we were armed, they were as well. They truly owned their property and since we didn't have to go though the main airport, only to the hanger, the government wasn't involved.

The way I see it, property rights don't trump my right to life. I believe that the one right that does trump all others is the right to life. I choose to use a firearm (as well as other weapons such as my knife) to ensure, or to at least even the odds, that my right to life is maintained.

As for not going to some of the places, there are cases when it is just not possible to shop elsewhere, medical services in a hospital comes to mind.

Just because I have to use the services that specialist provide doesn't mean that I need to remove any rights that I have in order to do so.

Wayne

Tubby45

I think if we were allowed to carry on planes what happened on 9-11-01 wouldn't have happened. Why? Criminals prefer unarmed victims.

ETA: I think we should be allowed to carry anywhere in the US except where private citizens (homes) or private businesses post or wish to disallow.

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Zundfolge

RLC Republican ... so pretty close